SIMGAMES HAS BEEN RIPPED OFF!

[Python]

http://www.maxisgamer.net/

Their whole site ... like ... copied SimGames. Thats friggin pathetic.

[Swatdawg]

Link dosen't work.

[tenniskid493]

WOW..its exaclty identical!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: I wonder if their hosting is even legitimate. I wouldn't register for it, I don't trust it. If you click on the member link, you see they have no one hosted yet.

[twat101]

hummm its not a ripped of version of urs as we have changed and it looks nuffing like urs only the top u thick idiots u really think we would wanna risk a court case oh and btw we only have no member cos we havent updated it yet we actuly have 5 members at the mo and plenty of accounts waiting to be activated oh and i dont want to see u lot taking this piss outta of us AT LEAST WE DONT NICK BUSINES unlike sum one *well like the owner of this site

btw this isnt aaron its paul im now part owner of maxisgamer and extrememethods

[Allowee]

The hosting page looks quite the same as on simgames.net, but why would we care...
things like this happen all over the internet, I'm not worried about it.
it's only a look-a-like

[Swatdawg]

Still sucks though. That people can't even spend the time to come up with thier own style.

[Python]

I know, how pathetic.

[KStange]

FWIW, the folks at MaxisGamer have been stealing the content from our site for as long as I can remember. Fortunately, they're completely incompetent, and delete everything and start over every couple months, so no one in their right mind would ever host with them. I don't know why they keep bothering.

I could certainly submit an abuse complain to their ISP, but they aren't really worth the effort. :-)

[Python]

I'm thankful to be hosted by the REAL deal :wink: and not some cheap immitation.

[asdaprice]

FOR YOUR INFORMATION

1) Maxisgamer.net did not rip off your design, if you look carefully, the coding is no way the same, and I have had 4 different people look at it to varify it.

2) I have had most of my content on floppy disks for over 5 years now. (Since the beginning)

3) Yes we can come up with our own styles, I designed the site with my own sweat and my own blood and hard work.

4) You got to need glasses to think the site is the same, as there are actual differences

5) my members page was down as i was still building it.

6) We have not been knicking Simgames.net's content for years, that is a dirty lie.

7) I have designed a new design to stop you all wining as i am sick to death of it and I better not hear any more nasty or slanderous comments about my site as it is doing my head in, just leave me and my site alone! also i suggest as this topic is slanderous, who ever is in charge here deletes this topic.

kindest regards

Aaron Bennett
Website Owner
www.maxisgamee.net

PS: I will say this, that i now have members and are slowly gwowing, just because certain ppl have it in for my site since alec died, no need to gloat and make my life a missery. :(

[Swatdawg]

Aaron Bennett
Website Owner
www.maxisgamee.net

He can't even get his site name right. :roll:

Also i see they have changed thier design. :o

[Allowee]

Also i see they have changed thier design. :o

changed there design....
Looks quite a lot like http://simpage.net

[asdaprice]

Yea looks like... doesnt mean it is the same does it?

The reason I changed my site design was because of the flack you people were giving me and now it is continuing. The comments in this topic are actually slanderous and not very nice in my oppinion. Maxisgamer.net have not nor ever have stolen anything and the design was hand made, look at the coding, completely different.

Also the logo, I drew that myself in Paint, not knicked it, drew it. Anyway what is the problem with you lot?

You have been posting slanderous comments about my site in a forum which if I am right, breaches the TOS of this script.

You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed).

Clearly also your modorators are not doing their job but joining ionm hurting my and my team of staff, that through all we have been through, are still standing here providing a service and you lot just want to wipe your feet all over us.

I am sorry, but enough is enough. I am now going to seek legal advice on this issue. I am fed up to the back teeth of being walked over by this website and the people posting in this forums. I am just a guy that wants to share hosting for gamers. I am autisitic and there is no need to get me really upset about this. I am really angry because you guys think is is fun to pick on me. YOU ARE A BUNCH OF BULLIES, picking on someone with a disability and should be ashamed of yourselves. Dont bother appologising, it's too late. [/u]

[Swatdawg]

The Good Reverend, Tim Gowa, Kevin Stange, Ted Butz, Alec Mackenzie, Aaron Bennett, Huw Arrowsmith, Iwan Davies, Alex Martin, James Barber, Phillip Garbutt, Raj Nisamaloo, David Walker, Adam Whitcomb, James Mackay and all the fans and people hosted by us that makes maxisgamer what it is, and for that we say a really big:

Is that you KStange? If so what happened? If you want to talk about it.

[asdaprice]

FYI: When we 1st started out on the Internet, Kevin kindly hosted us, so he is on the with thanks page. That was back in the days where Alec ran the site and I was mearly just a news poster.

[asdaprice]

BTW, if you got a problem with my site, why dont you come and tell me and not be so cowardly and go behind my back! You guys really cheese me off.

[KStange]

Isn't this fun? :twisted:

I like the use of the disability "card" to create sympathy for your disregard for our intellectual property. Since I wrote most of the text on this site, I quite well recognize it when I see it elsewhere.

When I have, at least a half dozen times, browsed your site and recognized slightly reworked copies of my own work on a design layout I laid out (but with such horrifying HTML added to the mix), and chosen to ignore it because you weren't worth my time, you might have assumed I didn't notice. To make matters worse, I did at one time contact Alec to have just such a problem corrected and it was taken care of briefly followed by exactly the same thing again.

You have been doing this for years, and Alec before you, and what's been said here is certainly neither slander nor libel when it is true, which it is, and if you're serious about suing us, let us know so I can prepare a few years of evidence for you... and let me assure you, the marvelous reality is that I can dig up more evidence against you than you can possibly imagine. However, I see no reason to bother wasting my time, and I'd strongly recommend you not waste any more of your own.

I would, likewise, appreciate never seeing a piece of content stolen by you from our site again, but since you have proven that you do not have the creativity to even write your own text, I will not be surprised next time you completely relaunch and copy whatever design we have at that time, content and all. And unless you make yourself a nuisance, I will probably do nothing more than let other people make fun of you. If you want to make an issue out of it, I'll be happy to have a discussion with your hosting provider.

To those curious:

It is correct to say that Alec was hosted here at one time. Even at that time they copied much of our content trying to run a hosting network. We had basically allowed this sort of thing, as we wanted to be sure that the terms were accurately represented on member sites that were hosting other people. When MaxisGamer did finally depart from our hosting, they took much of our content with them, which is the reason I had requested Alec remove it. I continued to periodically watch the site and saw many iterations of site design, always remarkably similar to the current SimGames.net design and containing nearly identical content. They've since moved away from taking our text verbatim and now reword it so as to differentiate themselves from us by different wording.

They have always kept a list of empty categories on their members page because they've never hosted more than 5 to 10 sites at any given time, most seeming to be personal sites of friends and staff. I am unsure whether they've ever had any users sign up for hosting service, but it is certainly something I would avoid given what I had seen happen to their member sites while they were hosted with us.

I have never given them a particularly hard time because they were not, are not, and never will be a threat to SimGames.net. They are certainly not welcome back to our hosting due to this behavior, though I know it had been requested on at least one occasion. To be honest, this situation has always amused me a bit. Though I must also admit I've always felt a bit sorry for them as well, as they've never even managed to benefit from stealing my work, as best I can tell.

[Karl Zimmerman]

After a quick review of the sites, I say: Go ahead, sue us... Nothing that has been stated is false, that I can tell. Let me give a couple examples...

Let me see, the front page of your site, first line:
Maxisgamer.net! have been providing webhosting to the gaming community for 5 years now.

Our site from a few years ago:
SimGames.net has been providing free hosting to the gaming community for over three years.

It wouldn't be that odd if it were in a different placement, but both being the first line on the site? Adding the grammar error doesn't really help you either...

Our free hosting page:
SimGames.net has three classifications of hosting, subdomain hosting and two levels of domain hosting. ... however domain hosting requires that you first acquire the domain name through a registrar. The Level 2 domain hosting is not available immediately upon signup unless your site already meets the establishment requirements.

Your free hosting page:
Maxisgamer.net has three levels of hosting. However, Level 1 and 2 Domain Plans require you to first purchase a domain from domain registrar. Level 2 hosting is not available on sign up. This plan requires you prove that your site is established first.

First line on the members page of Simgames.net:
SimGames.net is host to many popular sites in the gaming community

of MaxisGamer:
Maxisgamer.net is host to many gaming sites in the gaming community

You're telling me you didn't rip our text??

Now the help section. The sections we have:
General Site Management
Database Management
Scripting Support
Hosting Subaccounts
Miscellaneous Information

Your help sections:
General Site Support
Database Management
Scripting Support
Hosting Others
Misc. Support


That is enough proof right there to say that what is being said has merrit and cannot simply be said to be untrue. In order to have any case of libel or slander, you would need to prove that what was said was false... From what I can tell, no one has accused you of stealing our actual code, just the look, feel, and content of the site, which seems to be fairly accurate... Yes, most of the text isn't word-for-word anymore, but you can definitely tell where the text from your site came from.

Also, the site design now is a bit similar to SimGames.net from 2002 with the system status, etc.: http://web.archive.org/web/20020125092759/www.simgames.net/

Wish I could have seen your old design... Also, don't worry, we have saved your whole site on our servers, in case that is ever needed for "evidence," so deleting it now would be fruitless.

Also, the email you sent threatening legal action and informing us that you contacted our "host" was hilarious... Number one, I would just love to see you get a lawyer to process an international libel case when we an backup what was said, as is shown above. Next, you contact Equinix, our "host" and I am sure they could care less. That is like telling my landlord that I occassionally look at porn. They provide us space, nothing else. We don't even have much space with them anymore, as we're located mainly on the 2nd floor of the same building and we operate our own network, our own switches, etc. I can get you our new landlord's information as well, if you want it...

Sorry to tell you buddy, but we're the real deal, you're not. We're right, and you're wrong. Update your site and we won't contact our lawyers about you ripping our site... Oh yeah, unlike you, we actually have lawyers on retainer already. Haha, sorry, just thought that would be a fun way to end. Honestly, you're not even worth the time or money I would spend on just giving my lawyer a call.

[ManagerJosh]

Aaron/Paul:

We've been more than gracious hosts (in terms of a hosting member and member of this community) but there is a line you do not want to cross with me.

I've been well aware of your actions and I myself considered taking legal action for replicating our design updates. Needless to say, Chris and I were not that happy that you did so and we felt it best to leave you alone to give you the benefit of the doubt to distance yourself away from the design created.

Now both of you have the audacity to call us thieves and con artists? Careful where you tread. You aren't just dealing with Steadfast, Kevin, and Karl. You also have Chris and myself to contend with and we're not afraid of taking necessary measures to protect SimGames.net

If you want to cite your health reasons as your primary source of your actions, certainly one in your condition wouldn't have the rationale to properly threaten legal action.

[asdaprice]

Josh, dont thetern me

[ManagerJosh]

If I recalled correctly, no one from SimGames here threatened you in anyway or form. Only you've so far threatened legal action and even tried to pursue the issue..

[Python]

Aaron, your doing nothing but making yourself look like a total idiot. Josh and Karl are doing nothing but defending SimGames, and laying out the facts. Karl's last post basically just screwed your side of the arguement over.

[ManagerJosh]

It's really nice to see you emulating our decisions as well. Congratulations on your purchase of Perldesk (http://208.101.23.73/pdesk.cgi?do=login) as your support desk solution. I hope you enjoy it.

[Aaron Mooney]

Investigation into the person who calls himself "Aaron Bennett"

It's true, Aaron's been ripping off MGSN for years, I should know, I used to work for him and used to know him personally in real life.

He now calls himself Aaron Bennett, but in the past has changed his name a few times because of his shady past...I won't go into this but trust me, do not host with this guy, especially if you are a young child.

What I do have evidence on is some rather strange stories he tells…

Before we start I'll give you a little background knowledge.

I knew Aaron a while ago and he would often tell me a lot of stories. Like the one where he had cancer. Then the next week it had been cured.

He would often have friends who would suddenly die. He would post up pictures of them on his blog, and then the next week they were "dead" and he would create tribute pages for them. His friends and family would often be involved in horrific accidents. I did feel sorry for him, but I became suspicious when it happened too often, and the stories got weirder and weirder.

Another time we both used to post on a forum for a club we were involved in, and one day what appeared to be his carer at the time, registered and posted.

Now Aaron has a very distinctive posting style, due to his dyslexia.

His carer posted very similarly to him, as there was the same tell tale spelling mistakes, the big LOL'S, the same signature (name in bold, job title, website), and it also turned out this person had registered with Aarons email address…strange. I didn’t take any notice at the time.

But recently I spotted the same thing...

Remember Alec Mackenzie? Well I've looked at his posts on the simgames forum and they seem strangely he same. Same tell tale spelling mistakes, the big LOL'S, the same signature (name in bold, job title, website).

Aaron's posts (http://simgames.net/phpBB2/search.php?search_author=asdaprice)
Alec's posts (http://simgames.net/phpBB2/search.php?search_author=Alec)

Alec's last post on this site was on Tue Aug 26, 2003...
http://simgames.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=128&highlight=#128

One month later Aaron suddenly appeared out of nowhere and posted on the simgames forum telling the world that Alec had sadly died…
http://simgames.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=141&highlight=#141

Now this could all be pure coincidence, but this is when it gets weirder...

Aaron's tribute for Alec...
http://web.archive.org/web/20040923044511/http://alecmackenzie.maxisgamer.net/

and also a live version (until Aaron removes it after seeing this post) at…
http://www.maxisgamer.net/tribute.shtml


The first thing I notice is that it says..

Born may 6th 1989, Died September 13th 2003

But in Aaron's post here on Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:15 pm Aaron says...

Hi I would just like to let people know, that Alec died last night, (Tues)

Which makes Alec’s death on September 29th 2003

Now again, this could be a silly mistake. But then Aaron goes on to say…

He died on Sept. 30th at 8.33pm and was buried 7 days later

So he died AFTER Aaron made the announcement?

Also didn’t Alec live in America? Then what was he doing in Aarons care home?…

Jenny's Tribute

I remember the day Alec came to Stowey house. He was scared, quiet and very distressed

But again, it gets even weirder...

The tributes are all from fictional characters from a fictional place

The fictional place is “Stowey House”

Lets take a look at the names...
Stowey House Tribute written by: Jenny Edwards, Mike McCormick, Elaine Boyack, Shelly Jones, Nathan Watts, Luke Porter and all the young people, friends and ex staff who knew and loved Alec.

A Prayer by Michael Aged 10

This place and people are mostly from the fictional book and television programme Tracy Beaker. Which coincedently is one of Aaron's favourite stories.

Lets take a look at the castlist...

http://web.archive.org/web/20041108085516/http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363378/

Elaine 'The Pain' Boyack, Jenny, Shelley, Nathan, Michael.

Just type in a few of the names from Aarons tribute into google along with the term "Tracy Beaker" and see what turns up! For example...

Google search (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=%22jenny+edwards%22+%22tracy+beaker%22&spell=1)

Tracy's enemie is Justine Littlewood! The staff are Jenny Edwards, Mike, Duke the cook, and that very annoying social worker Elaine Boyak!!

In conclusion to this investigation I think Aaron isn't very well and needs to be taken off of the internet immediately as he is a danger to himself and to other people he may be in contact with, particularly through his hosting.

Why did I just waste my time compiling all of this evidence you ask?

Because he needs help. One day he will get into a lot of trouble as a consequence of the stories he tells and his actions.

Thanks

A concerned party

P.S. Aaron would probably say this is “slander”, but as you can see, I have backed up each point with evidence from the man himself.

[ManagerJosh]

I'm gonna make the assumption and say MGSN's only fan isn't a fan of MGSN anymore?

[Python]

I knew it. He told me his mother was killed in the London Transit bombings last summer. What a load of ****. I want to see "Aaron" back this up.

[chazman]

Hello,

I have worked with Aaron for just coming onto a year now. I do agree there can be times when he makes things a little suspicious, but to me, he seems like a great guy. I don't think he means to "steal" this sites content. I have personally compared the two sites and yes, i have seen similarities mentioned here. I addressed him on the issue he says you are copying him. I am not going to assume you are copying him or he is copying you. In my opinion, I think you should be happy if he does copy you. The only reason he would want to copy you is because he likes how your site is designed. You may not like being copied, i know i wouldn't, but i'm sure if you just emailed him he would be happy to redo his layout. He has informed me that Maxisgamer started a few years prior to SimGames. Whether or not you want him using a design similar to yours, that is up to you. If you want to be angry with him, that is your perogative, but I feel that there is no need to put down him, and he has no right to put down you. I hope the best for both MaxisGamer as well as SimGames, i know it can be complicating to be a webhost, i know because I am also the owner of a webhost company. I do honestly hope everything works out for everyone

[ManagerJosh]

Aaron, stop hiding behind facades and false identities. You can call yourself the Chazman, asdfprice or Alec Mackenzie or WHATEVER. You are still the same identity and we can see right through it.

If you want to trump MaxisGamer has been here first, then let me refute your claims with third party sources.

You could consider me one of the founding sites with SimGames. I joined SimGames around April of 2001, so I've been with SimGames for quite sometime despite my leave shortly afterwards because of the server crisis of August in 2001.

I also happen to know SimGames was launched around 2000, with the domain created around 1999.

My records indicate MaxisGamer was created around July of 2002. That's roughly 3 years since the launch of SimGames.

A simple WHOIS record can verify that claim as well.

Moreover, if you compare cached versions of SimGames.net and Maxisgamer.net on Archive.org, you'll see we have cached pages dating far back as 2000 where as Maxisgamer's earliest pages were dated 2003.


That's a two independent third-party sources, which would refute your claim Maxisgamer has been around longer.

[chazman]

WHATRE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?! THIS IS NOT AARON! ITS JUSTIN! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO ASSUME I AM SOMEONE ELSE WITHOUT HAVING ANY FACTS!

[asdaprice]

JOSH

FIRST HOW DARE YOU SPEAK TO ME LIKE THIS. CHAZMAN IS ANOTHER PERSON NOT ME DO A WHOIS ON THE IP AND YOU WILL SEE THIS. I AM IN TURKEY AT THE MOMENT NOT IN THE UK SO WATCH WHAT YOU SAY!

SECONDLY YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT MAXISGAMER WAS SETUP WHEN EVER YOU SAY BUT ALSO WE HAD MANY SITES BEFORE THAT WHICH THE NETWORK WAS CREATED OUT OF. THINK BACK SO THE SIMINGTON CENTRE SIMSUTOPIA THE SIMS STORE. ALEC STARTED THE SIMS STORE IN 1999 LONG BEFORE YOU GUYS WERE HERE AND THAT YOU WILL FIND IS NOW ALL PART OF THE FRAMEWORK THAT CURRENTLY IS MAXISGAMER MAKING US RUNNING LONGER THAN YOU.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME AND ALEC AND I DO NOT KNOW AND I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW. AS CHAZMAN SAID WHY THE HELL WE CANT JUST STAND CLEAR OF EACH OTHER AND JUST LET US GET ON WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING AND YOU LIKEWISE INSTEAD OF BEING SO CHILDISH AND IMATURE. YOU SAY YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY WELL WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU LETTING THIS GO ON LIKE THIS. IF YOU WERE A SO CALLED PROFESSIONAL COMPANY. WHY DID YOU NOT OPEN A SUPPORT TICKET WITH US AT MAXISGAMER AND DEAL WITH THE ISSUE AT HAND DIRECT YOUR CONCERNS TO US? MY POINT ENTIRELY.

IF YOU HAD OF EMAILED US DIRECTLY WE WOULD OF TAKEN THE NESSERSERY ACTION AND DEALT WITH IT. BUT IT SEEMS YOU ARE TOO IMATURE TO DO THAT. IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WE ADDRESS IT I HAVE TRIED TO BE RESONABLE WITH YOU AND TRIED TO SORT THE ISSUE OUT BUT NOW 4 MONTHS LATER THIS IS STILL GOING ON. WHEN WILL YOU GUYS LEARN TO GROW UP?

I AM REALLY GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF YOU AND THIS LITTLE GAME YOU ARE PLAYING YOU ARE CAUSING SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGES TO ME MENTALLY AS I HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THIS CONTANT ABUSE AND TORMENT. IT IS ALSO WRONG FOR SIMGAMES.NET STAFF TO GET INVOLVED WITH SUCH A ARGUMENT AND STAFF SHOULD STAY NUTERAL AND NOT ALLOW SLANDER ON YOUR FORUMS. LIKE ANYONE GIVES A STUFF BUT.... THAT ALSO BREAKS THE LICENCE FOR THIS FORUM WHICH STATES THAT YOU MUST NOT POST OBSENCE HATEFUL OR SLANDEROUS COMMENTS ON THIS FORUM. THAT YOU ARE ALL GUILTY OF.

BTW FURTHER UP THIS POST YOU SAY YOU ARE RIGHT AND I AM WRONG YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME PERSONALLY SO YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT ASUMPTION AND JUST BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE DEGREES OR SOMETHING IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO WIPE MY FACE IN THE MUD AND MAKE ME OUT TO BE SOMEONE I AM NOT. JUST BECAUSE SIMGAMES IS RUN BY A MULTI MILLION CORPARATION OR SOMETHING DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO PUSH ME ABOUT AND BULLY ME ON THIS FORUM NOR TO LET THIS BEHAVIOUR CARRY ON. OH IN MY REPSONSE TO SIMGUY I WOULD NOT TOUCH YOUR HOSTING WITH A BARGE POLE FROM BEING HOSTED BY YOU IN THE PAST I SEE YOUR SERVERS TO BE UNRELIABLE H-SPHERE TO BE TOTALLY USELESS AND EASY TO MINIPULATE AND I WOULD GET BETTER SUPPORT FROM MY MOTHER THAN YOU GUYS. PUT IT THIS WAY YOUR HOSTING IS RUBBISH YOU TAKE AGES TO RESPOND TO YOUR MEMBERS TICKETS WHERE WE LOOK AT OURS AT VARIOUS TIMES IN THE DAY AND YOUR ADS MAKE SITES SO SLOW WHO WOULD WANT TO BE HOSTED BY YOU? AT LEAST OUR NETWORK HAS A DECENT CONTROL PANEL A DECENT SERVER AND A ADD FREE NETWORK.

PERIOD!

[KStange]

As a staff member at an HSP, I can tell you that H-Sphere and InterWorx and Plesk are much better control panel choices. I read your site sometimes. cPanel servers are prone to random and inconsistent breakage, and your new posts confirm it happens frequently for you and has been happening frequently since you started using cPanel. You reference ancient problems that haven't affected us in years. :-)

We've been playing this game with you because it amuses us and you seem to be willing to play. This is not the first time you have been warned about many of these issues and you continue to behave in the same way. You're not worth the aggravation of dealing with directly since your site doesn't actually pose any threat of competition with us and this server basically pays for itself anyway.

Oh, and if you want to count past related sites, the framework for SimGames.net was started as SimCenter. You have to count that, which started around the same time as NoZone, itself, in 1997 and was offering the same type of service SimGames.net is now... free hosting.

[asdaprice]

Okay fair point about u sıte beıng what ever you said ıt ıs called but I do not see this as a game and it is not amusing and every time you have had a prblem with us we changed things even if it iis almpst the same wording İ recon it is time this game ended cos it aint a game it is harassment and bullying

[ManagerJosh]

The same could be said for your blatant intellectual and copyright infringements on SimGames as well :-). That isn't a game.

[asdaprice]

LOL Like see you actually prove it as in you stand behing me and watch me type it only way is to actually see me pinch it and not something i happened to create conicidentally so why dont you go and BUTT OUT YOU BIG BULLY! :evil: WHY DONT YOU GO AND BLOODY GROW UP ALL OF YOU YOU BUNCH OF IMATURE SCHOOL CHILDREN COS THAT IS THE WAY YOU ARE ALL BEHAVING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.

[ManagerJosh]

Don't Push it.

[asdaprice]

look why cant we just come to some kind of agreement I redesign maxisgamer re do all our terms and everything and we just forgt this whole matter and you archive this topic for future generations to have a giggle about.

[ManagerJosh]

Because the fact of the matter is no matter how many style changes, name changes, management changes your site site has gone through Alec, fundamentaly, you'll rip something from us, from either SimGames, or Steadfast.

[asdaprice]

That is a dirty lie, and I offered to come up with something that was unique and allowed you to make sure it was not so called ripped so that we can end this stupid argument. I tried to compromise but you dont wanna know. I was giving you the chance to make sure it was something that you think is yours.

[neilw]

hi you guys dont know me but i can tell you for a a fact that jason mills aka asdaprice and yes jason mills is his real name, NOT aaron bennett, has ripped off many designs not just from you. i have seen him do it.
JASON STOP LYING

[ManagerJosh]

Exactly how am I lying? You were caught red handed stealing our design and hence this thread was created.

[asdaprice]

FINAL WARNING TO STEADFAST NETWORKS AND SIMGAMES.NET

To whome it may concern,

This matter and constant abuse and imapropiate behaviour on this forum, towards me, my staff and my website hads gon on long enough, As stated in my website's terms of service document, Abuse towards our staff or our network staff in any way will not be tolerated. IE: you use foul language, threaten us, or do anything we find offensive. Simgames.net and your members have been found gilty of this, and furthermore your statements and comments on this forum have been researched and we have found that this is against the law, you are causing me and my staff some doistress, disxcomfort and also you are making comments that are not 100% true and or are not arciute.

Alec may of done things he should not of, but Alec is now dead as you know, and we have just reused his content, which you found to be in likleness to your own content, however, on a number of occasions I have said that we should just close this dispute and get on with running our own companies.

I have offered on this forum a compromise and I have offered to redesign my website with completely new content, which will not be a so called infringement of your website's interletial property rights. I have also responded in a timely mannor when you have made a complaint and have removed such content as needed. However, this dispute has gone on long enough, has caused too much damage to my own reputation and my website's reputation, and now is the time to end it.

I am now giving Simgames.net and Steadfast Networks 14 days from today, that is Wednesday 15th November to purge this topic and all content from it, otherwise Maxisgamer and it's parent company Chaznet Networks will be forced to take legal proceedings against you and belive me we will do it!

Thankyou.

[ManagerJosh]

Your terms of service doesn't apply here. This site isn't property of MaxisGamer and you have no jurisdiction over this forum or its members.

Moreso, you can bluff all you want about laws. If you research the laws, then you would know the laws are in our favor. I can think of a few laws off the top of my head that allows. Some of them include:

-Freedom of Speech/Press
-Content posted above is not libel or slanderous, as it is true
-Coming to the nuisance.

Moreso, we're basing our opinion on your actions Aaron/Alec/Jason or whatever your name is. You were caught stealing and violating others intellectual property and copyright. Simple as that.

[KStange]

We're not deleting this topic. However, it would be appreciated if you would dump all the content that has been taken from our site over the years and write your own. You don't need us to like you before you purge all the stolen content you've accumulated. Just take it down and rebuild it on your own.

You cannot outwardly apply your terms of service to people not using your service. You face no threat from us, and we have no obligation to refrain from things you find offensive simply because you've written that in your terms of service. If you're offended, don't come to this site anymore. If you're interested in continuing to threaten us with legal action, then you're no longer welcome to participate in this forum. If that's what you prefer, I'll be happy to ban your account for you.

And as for your reputation, it precedes you. Most of the information in this thread is either verifiable or speculative. Neither are illegal and nothing will be deleted.

If you hadn't been stealing our content all this time, this thread never would have existed and you'd have saved yourself a lot of trouble. Attempting an international lawsuit will cost quite a bit of money, and I would strongly advise against wasting it, since you have a free hosting network to run that brings in no apparent revenue.

[asdaprice]

Ok all content removed, I re did our terms too, if you spot anything that is still yours please let me know. Could this topic now be closed, not deleted but closed and also please let me know if you see anything of yours again. I retact my coments re leagal proceedings now because we have got this sorted out.

I am sorry for all the bother, that goes to everyone I am appologising folks.

By the way in regards to a comment made from Simguy earlier in this topic, yes you are right, H-sphere is better, but darn espensive! :D Oh well good luck with everything.

[KStange]

I've decided that the point has been adequately made and that there's no real need for any additional flaming in this thread, so I'm going to lock it for now for posterity. :)

[ManagerJosh]

In no way does this imply or signify this thread will be locked permanently. This thread may be unlocked in the future should the point need to be reiterated.