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Nightshade
03-28-2005, 11:33 AM
I was wondering what sort of creatures you all plan on creating? (Underwater,land, big, small, how many legs etc.)

I'm still designing my plan but I might make a large pack of bloodthirsy ogre-giants. Crush the small and the weak!

Hawk_Eyes
03-28-2005, 11:35 AM
I think I'll worry about that when the game comes out and I own it.

Mr.Heat
03-28-2005, 11:36 AM
I think my first will be a premade one, so i can explore and see what's the whole business is about....but my 2nd.....You don't want to see it :devil:





Heat

Nightshade
03-28-2005, 11:38 AM
Oooh that smiley gives me an idea. Evil 6 winged devils from beyond! They'll hunt down humans for food! :mischievous:

Mr.Heat
03-28-2005, 11:39 AM
Oooh that smiley gives me an idea. Evil 6 winged devils from beyond! They'll hunt down humans for food! :mischievous:


Humans? :rolleyes: *hint*



Heat

Nightshade
03-28-2005, 11:41 AM
? Whaddya mean?

Mr.Heat
03-28-2005, 11:42 AM
? Whaddya mean?


I'm not that sure, but i don't think there will be humans in that game...




Heat

Nick402
03-28-2005, 11:45 AM
? Whaddya mean?


I'm not that sure, but i don't think there will be humans in that game...




Heat

I hope so. I'm thinking of making a skin-colored, two legged and two arm creature with two eyes, a nose, and a mouth, and some hair on the top. Sound familiar? :laughing2:

kuhndog
03-28-2005, 12:01 PM
hmm definately underwater!

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britlovessims
03-28-2005, 12:17 PM
I think I'll worry about that when the game comes out and I own it.

Lol..same..I will probably just start thinking about it after its installed..

boines
03-28-2005, 12:19 PM
I have so many drawings from my high school days of "creature" like things that I might put in the game. Hope they let flying creatures in that would be awsome :)

Mr.Heat
03-28-2005, 12:21 PM
I have so many drawings from my high school days of "creature" like things that I might put in the game. Hope they let flying creatures in that would be awsome :)


I heard that Flying is possible.



Heat

imported_Sash
03-28-2005, 01:36 PM
I have so many drawings from my high school days of "creature" like things that I might put in the game. Hope they let flying creatures in that would be awsome :)


I heard that Flying is possible.



Heat

Flippers, feet and arms can be created, so wings would be logical. If you look at the screenshot which shows the creature editor (http://www.planetspore.co.uk/images1/4.jpg) , you can see the tools at the side. Some of them are obvious, but one of the others may be an option for wings.

As for me, my dream creature would have four legs, two arms, and two claws protruding from it's neck, for holding things in. I'm still dreaming up what else it would have...

Mr.Heat
03-28-2005, 02:00 PM
The CAC that was showed in the GDC isn't the final version, that's why i didn't mention it..
.


Heat

Aphid
03-28-2005, 02:09 PM
I'm not expecting great underwater effects in the next half-Century so I'll stick with land based.

imported_Sash
03-28-2005, 03:11 PM
I'm not expecting great underwater effects in the next half-Century so I'll stick with land based.

Underwater effects? Maybe not...but general surface water effects are excellent. Take a look at Age of Empires III (coming out later this year). it's got some of the best water effects.

But Spore seems to be based around cartoon like graphics, so the water will probably purposefully not be as good as it could be.

Nightshade
03-28-2005, 03:43 PM
I'm starting to get worried this game will become another dl other players items to have fun game...
I wanna make my own cool creatures in the game!

(Last post today... night all.)

Aphid
03-28-2005, 07:04 PM
I want a creature like this:

http://www.snootyspore.com/pics/spore007.jpg

Aww :smile:

Sapphire
03-28-2005, 10:32 PM
^^that creature looks really cool, i reckon it will be really excting to make up creatures :smile:

XPDude
03-29-2005, 12:45 AM
I'll make a 3-eyed freak, then a Sim, then a bear :)

Mr.Heat
03-29-2005, 12:51 AM
^^that creature looks really cool, i reckon it will be really excting to make up creatures :smile:



That creature sucks...it's too normal :laughing2:





Heat

XPDude
03-29-2005, 01:16 AM
Weirdos rule. One main reason why I'm getting this game. How about a monster with 14 noses? That will rule.

Mr.Heat
03-29-2005, 01:18 AM
Weirdos rule. One main reason why I'm getting this game. How about a monster with 14 noses? That will rule.


It is truly confirmed, in GDC, Will Wright has shown a creature with something like 60 beaks! :shocked:




Heat

imported_Sash
03-29-2005, 01:28 AM
I'll make a 3-eyed freak, then a Sim, then a bear :)

Hey, a Sim would be quite cool. It probably wouldn't have the same intelligence as an actual Sim, but it would look cool.....

Mr.Heat
03-29-2005, 01:30 AM
I'll make a 3-eyed freak, then a Sim, then a bear :)

Hey, a Sim would be quite cool. It probably wouldn't have the same intelligence as an actual Sim, but it would look cool.....



In advanced stages of the game, the Intelligence of the creatures might get alot higher than The Sims Intellegence..



Heat

XPDude
03-29-2005, 01:31 AM
^ So they won't point to the floor and act stupid?

Finally.

Mr.Heat
03-29-2005, 01:33 AM
^ So they won't point to the floor and act stupid?

Finally.


Intellegence is a thing you need to develop in this gane....so...don't rush with the "finally" :laughing2:



Heat

strillor
03-29-2005, 06:27 AM
I've already started some sketches :D I just can't wait for the game to come out. I mean, are there other games letting you be that free?!?! #create the creature# #create their buildings# #create their culture# #create it all in your taste# :D I've 2 ideas on my mind....

1. Half dog/half owl :S

2. Half vampire/half dragon :O

This'll be so great! And many people noticed that the game looked kinda done, so after the E3, it shouldn't take long before it's out in the stores :D:D

"sorry about the spelling... I'm danish not english :S"



Anna...

Dumdadum
03-29-2005, 06:48 AM
I want a creature like this:

http://www.snootyspore.com/pics/spore007.jpg

Aww :smile:
Awwww. That's so cute. *pokes* :D
And about the wings, the second icon from the bottom kinda looks.. wingy..

I haven't decided what mine'll look like yet, but I might as well start sketching now. :spin:

Dean
03-29-2005, 11:36 AM
I'm not really interested in making weird creatures. :indifferent:

ConradSpore
03-29-2005, 11:37 AM
Yeah, I want normal looking creatures!

imported_Sash
03-29-2005, 01:46 PM
lol...everyone likes their own way...that's the beauty of customisation....you can make what you want...

But IMO, a fifteen armed creature with seven beaks will be better than a two legged thing with one mouth (seriously, what kind of useless species has one mouth :laughing2: )

Intelligence in this game can only go to a certain extent. You can't put the entire Sims engine into the game, with memories and wants and stuff. I expect it will go quite high though...creatures will do what they think is "cool" depending on what their personality is...

OK, I'm dreaming out loud now...I'll stop...

Sash

Aphid
03-29-2005, 02:59 PM
I prefer normal creatures...

calivaty
04-02-2005, 12:44 PM
I think I'm gonna make some type of cat. Ah cheeta or something. It will be really fast and can kill everything

Nightshade
04-02-2005, 02:34 PM
All I want is the most volatile disgusting creature possible created (funny, girls call me that most of the time! :laughing2: )

OverlordBill
04-02-2005, 05:55 PM
Something very blobular, with long legs and teeny tiny arms. Possibly wings. And if it can breath fire, it's sure doing that as well.

As a second creature, think of a centipede, but as if you placed ten side by side and then fused them together.

After that, I'll just let my imagination run wild. Who knows what insane things we'll be able to put on creatures or bizarre semi-transparent limbs we'll be able to make. Maybe a flying cube, or Jerry Springer with horns.

Moon Umbbe
05-02-2005, 10:04 PM
I'd like to make anthro-animals like a twolegged cat, giant snake (cool!)
that has 10 tails and spikes. Isn't it cute? :smile:

K.A.L.
05-09-2005, 05:24 PM
I was thinking on making an army of foxes! ( That look like Krystal from Starfox Adventures :smile:. but with a more appropriate outfit.) They can have long, angel wings to fly and have webbed hands and feet to swim! :D ( I hope also that you can actually create clothes that is your style without having to have a 500$$$ photoshop like in the sims 2! :banghead: Cause if they dont... :censored: :angry: :grumpy: :banghead: :comptoss:.

MrErops
05-14-2005, 09:06 AM
I am think of making a very tiny creature, with 2 legs, 2 arms, 3 eyes, big head, tiny neck and tiny body.. :D

Night Angel
05-16-2005, 06:44 PM
She is supposed to look like my avitar ( I was K.A.L.)

DeGrue
05-20-2005, 07:36 AM
I really liked the spiderish creature from the new screenshot, so I probaly will make something like that :bouncy:

Nightshade
05-20-2005, 11:11 AM
Mine will be extremely dangerous. Their military ranks will charge up and control the entire universe. Either surrender and hand over your money or perish beneath my tidal wave of evil.

By the way, carebears would be weak hunters until they get weapons I think...

06-06-2005, 12:24 AM
i dunno, mr. molyneux said that he could make um really vicious at gdc...*is stalked, killed and eaten by a hormonal carebear*

OverlordBill
06-06-2005, 12:42 PM
Molyneux is to Black and White as Wright is to Spore.

You got your game designers mixed up.

Jeskim
06-06-2005, 05:27 PM
yea oops sorry

Jeskim
06-07-2005, 02:20 AM
:spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: confusionization again....wuaaaaaaaa :spin: :sporerules: :yikes: <that guys on crackXD

Kazatan
06-13-2005, 05:45 AM
mine will look like my avatar

and im solely creating it for it to get completely slaughtered by everything that wants to slaughter it!

so hopefully with all your maniac death dealing creaturs in your games you will come acros some of these things and eat them a bit :laughing2:

strillor
06-13-2005, 06:16 AM
already having my Yokins..

and I'm also going to make these wonderful beautiful mermaid-birds.. :love: hehe birmaids!! or merds... :confused: no matter what, they are gonna live beautiful and ANTI war-ish...!!

Azkar
06-13-2005, 06:20 AM
In the same vein as Will's Carebear obsession, I have a burning desire to make Smurfs .. with a complete Smurf village. It'll be .. smurfy ;).

strillor
06-13-2005, 07:53 AM
wow... smurfs... :shocked: smurfy-doody great idea!


here's a picture of that "thing" I want to have as my sea-creature

http://img61.echo.cx/img61/1029/aishaunder8vl.png (http://www.imageshack.us)

I hope it works"!!

And for you everybody.. This picture is taken from NEOPETS.com.. :laughing2:

OverlordBill
06-13-2005, 10:43 AM
What did I tell you about copyright violations? Who called it? Give me props. Give me props right now.

strillor
06-13-2005, 11:17 AM
someone's in a teasing mood :rolleyes:

I hope neopets.com wont come running after me with a bill or something?!?! arrrrrgh

OverlordBill
06-13-2005, 12:08 PM
You wouldn't get sued. Maxis or EA or whatever company they've merged into now would get it. And no, you're not an isolated incident. I can say with reasonable certainty that there are thousands of other fools out there saying they're the only one doing it too. The minute someone seriously complains and threatens a lawsuit, your creatures will be removed from the server. It's as simple as that.

Azkar
06-13-2005, 12:38 PM
The Exchange and any Sims fansite is full of recreations of copyrighted characters. If no one's shut that down yet, I don't think there's very much to worry about.

It is a grey area, in terms of copyright. Fan fiction, fan art, etc., is generally tollerated, though, because no one's (usually) trying to make a buck off of the original work. As long as you aren't trying to sell it, or otherwise diminishing their ability to make a profit, the companies don't seem to really care too much.

Except Mattel, of course. They're very aggressive about protecting the Barbie name - to the point of trying to force Barbie Anderson to change the name of her store / website (www.barbiesshop.com). So I guess no Barbie spores ;).

OverlordBill
06-13-2005, 02:16 PM
Ah. But all the Sims were human. You can't copyright the way that someone looks. Well. Sort of yes and no with DNA copyrights, but identical twins prove that nutrition and exercise change the expression of genes in humans. As with all other organisms.

The thing with Spore is just the opposite. Much like City of Heroes, where someone (DC Comix or whichever other nerd fest that was) created the original content all from their mind, much like that Aysha or Ayla thing or whatever from Neopets. Even if you only had about twenty people recreating characters and creatures from whatever they could find, and the average time it takes to create a look-a-like of something is one hour, and since these are ubergeeks they play for at least three hours a day, in one month you could have potentially 1,800 copyright violations. Now that's very vague, but probably on the low side. In actuality we'll see worlds populated with all 300 bajillion pokemon, all of the neopets characters, any particularly strange cartoon whatsit that some ten year old saw on tv and has the amazing visual skills to create, all within three weeks. Now if that doesn't piss someone off, I don't know what will. Especially with those crazy pokemon people. That line goes down a number of other roads I don't even want to think about.

Now yes, I concede that Spore is a "MMOSPG", but you're still getting everyone elses content. The fact that you don't have to pay a subscription fee monthly may also come into play, as manufacturers aren't responsible for what people do with a product once all financial transactions have been completed. But then I'm not a soothsayer, so I could be well off the mark.

suomalainen
06-13-2005, 09:55 PM
Whén people makes pokemon or neopet it's fan-creation, you don't sell it to anybody. That means you can make anything what you like. Pokemon's desingners aren't going to watch what you make. Same thing with neopets. No-one doesn't come to say: "you can't draw scorchio! It's copyrighted!"

Kazatan
06-14-2005, 02:56 AM
perhaps the name of the thread should be "What kind of Law Suit...."

suomalainen
06-14-2005, 03:52 AM
Woops! Off-topic! Well my critter will be cute serpent! ^^

OverlordBill
06-14-2005, 07:02 AM
Connect the dots here people. You have to pay for Spore, and when you log on it instantly downloads some copyrighted character not made by the original author. That seems like a bit of iffy ground to me.

Azkar
06-14-2005, 07:24 AM
I don't think we're going to have a huge problem with copyrighted stuff. Yeah, people are gonna recreate their favourite creatures at some point in their Spore life. In the grand scheme of things, though, this is going to be a fairly small portion of the total creatures. I mean, it might be fun to have Homer in your Sims game, but do you really want to conquer the galaxy with an army of Homers? (Mmm .. donut ..)

There's another reason we may not be seeing too many of these guys. These creatures aren't likely to be the "fittest" animals, from a survival standpoint. Look at Will's Carebear. It's cute and all, but in reality, it would be devoured in a second by some big angry-looking veloci-spider. From the game's point of view, these novelty creatures aren't likely to appear very useful, so it probably isn't going to put too many of them into your world.

strillor
06-14-2005, 08:41 AM
hehe,, thank you everybody, I feel safe now :spin:

and,, that means I can still make that blue-creature I showed higher up right???
And I'm probobly gonna make SOME changes on it.. For an example, those arms wouldn't survive in this game, there'll be needed superfast fins :laughing2:

Mr.Heat
06-14-2005, 09:42 AM
hehe,, thank you everybody, I feel safe now :spin:

and,, that means I can still make that blue-creature I showed higher up right???
And I'm probobly gonna make SOME changes on it.. For an example, those arms wouldn't survive in this game, there'll be needed superfast fins :laughing2:


You can still make the same creature, identical, but say that you didn't even know about that blue thing of neopets.com , net-sues aren't that easy anymore...anyway, let's get back on topic :smile:


Heat

leech10
06-14-2005, 12:48 PM
Mine will be big, green, and scaly, and it will have a forked tail, 2 large hind legs, 2 small front legs, 6 claws on each foot, spikes on its back, and its head will look like my avatar.

master genesis
06-20-2005, 07:20 AM
i want to conquer the galaxy, and take control of planets. I am going to make like an insect creature that looks like a cross between the aliens off of alien and the aliens off of independence day and i want them to live in a colony like ants and wasps acting as one.

HolsteinCow
06-29-2005, 05:56 PM
I've searched for hours upon hours and this (http://members.iinet.net.au/~drew1/oomari.htm) is the closest thing to what I dreamed up.

Add gelatinous wings and two tentacles that could be used as manipulators and you've got yourself a flying/swimming octopus jellyfish.

duke_nemmerle
07-02-2005, 05:26 PM
I really really want to make an expansionist insectoid intelligence

Hazath
08-03-2005, 02:54 PM
Gonna try to get something like a snake. If that doesn't work... I'll have to make a spider of sorts.

kattzy
08-06-2005, 09:19 AM
id like to try and make a cat person ,like in thundercats and a cute my little pony creature,as well as some thing like an improved tranasuras rex :smile:

master genesis
08-08-2005, 08:34 AM
I have one question for you how many human look alikes are there going to be and how many supposed Earths are there going to be. :laughing2:

Im going to have an insect like creatures that take over other planets. :bouncy:

Mr.Heat
08-08-2005, 10:00 AM
I have one question for you how many human look alikes are there going to be and how many supposed Earths are there going to be. :laughing2:


It all depends on you my friend. ;)




Heat

K.Kraden
08-08-2005, 06:08 PM
I guess it's also up to creative anachronists to destroy said worlds.

Astrodog
08-08-2005, 06:16 PM
I was planning on making peter griffins.

master genesis
08-09-2005, 08:54 AM
Ohhh no I just thought of something horrible! I have alot of friends that are into teams/clans what if they all made the same creature and invited others to! Ok its not horrible but anyway say what you think.

Astrodog
08-09-2005, 08:56 AM
My peters would never have developed brains and would have no weapons. They would be a nice food source.

Hazath
08-09-2005, 04:49 PM
My peters would never have developed brains and would have no weapons. They would be a nice food source.


How will they reproduce? Last time I checked Peter griffen couldn't mate with himself.

K.Kraden
08-09-2005, 05:01 PM
Not to mention they are very uninspired and do Spore absolutely no justice. Please... think of the rest of us before you make cheezy ripoffs of pop-culture icons.

Astrodog
08-09-2005, 05:06 PM
[quote="Hazath"Last time I checked Peter griffen couldn't mate with himself.[/quote]

All of the species are androgynous(They look the same between both genders) so it would just be...uh...Peter humping another Peter.

Hazath
08-12-2005, 06:18 AM
no thanks... I'll pass on the peter idea. In fact, if I don't see any Peters, of any type in SPore, I'll be happy

Astrodog
08-12-2005, 07:42 AM
The chance of one single critter showing up in your game is small,and the chance that you'll even FIND it is even worse.

master genesis
08-15-2005, 05:09 PM
Do you think that you can make very small creatures that live on large creatures. :confused: If so then look to the skies for the invasion of the small, flea like, bloodsuckers, that also resemble ticks kind of, but larger in some areas.... sorry just give me an answer if you can. :smile:

Mr.Heat
08-15-2005, 09:28 PM
Do you think that you can make very small creatures that live on large creatures. :confused: If so then look to the skies for the invasion of the small, flea like, bloodsuckers, that also resemble ticks kind of, but larger in some areas.... sorry just give me an answer if you can. :smile:


Ummm, i don't think that is an option when you advance in the game, but it may be possible at the beginning :bouncy:




Heat

Hazath
08-15-2005, 09:42 PM
genious idea... make a paracyte.

K.Kraden
08-15-2005, 10:15 PM
Large, reptilian, and gentle. Their favorite thing to do will be to construct beauty. They wish to get along with all races, and habitate the galaxy.


...Until you tick 'em off.

master genesis
08-16-2005, 04:22 PM
This is in refrences to creatures do you think you would be able to create small buildings for small creatures, kind of like Gulaver's travels kind of citis, complex but small.Give me some posts people :laughing2:

K.Kraden
08-16-2005, 05:14 PM
This is in references to your post Master do you think you could use proper grammar, kind of like how big boys use, if its not too hard for you to do :laughing2:

No, I am not mocking you. I'm merely wondering why grammar is so hard for little kids to understand.


Also, it's getting pretty tiring having people ask questions INSIDE a thread that is located on the DISCUSSION board. How about you take your question to the spore QUESTION forum, and ask it in a NEW thread there?

master genesis
08-16-2005, 05:15 PM
I'm not much of a speller thank you. :censored: :laughing2:

master genesis
08-16-2005, 05:26 PM
Yeah.... are you grading me on something..... or am I in trouble. No really I just like to type fast and only care if I am getting somthing across. I didn't know that it botherd you, I'll try too be better, I guess. ;)

What is a conversation without a question.

Oh, and another thing how old are you Kraden?

OverlordBill
08-16-2005, 06:08 PM
For once I find myself coming to Kay-Kay's defense. It's not physical age that matters but mental maturity. A fair meter is proper command of the English Language.

And no, Heat. There is no indication that you will be able to make a creature small enough to feed off a larger host at any point in the game. In the cell stage you're only fighting against other unicellular organisms. A patch of goo is a patch of goo. Once you become multicellular, the point is to evolve into a more complex organism with structures for handling tools and taming fire. You saw as well as I did in the GDC video that the bones only shrunk so far before they reached their minimum size. If you can create a creature small enough to latch onto a larger organism and not get seen and summarily squashed with bone structures that large, I'll give you a medal.

Let's not get everyone's hopes up about features that were never planned. If there's evidence released by Maxis that says you can have a parasitical creature, then I'll allow for speculation. We don't need to make opinion about the game when it comes out negative because of unfounded guesses.

K.Kraden
08-16-2005, 09:42 PM
I love you too, Bill. Seriously.

Back on topic, I also have an idea for a pentagonal creature with 5 extremely stubby legs, a tall cylindrical body, and a mouth on a central long tentacle. Not the fastest of creatures, but highly defensive so anything that tries to eat it is in for a fight. Probably a carrion eater if the game supports that, which is improbable but not entirely out of the question.

Nightshade
08-17-2005, 09:49 AM
Ohh I have so many plans for different creatures I keep coming up with, I'd like to create my old idea of humomic (Is that a word?! :P) looking creatures except this time they'll have 6 arms, 2 small dark wings (demonesque, me likey), red eyes if possible, and only 1 eyeball. My cyclops demons will be medium in the food chain, successful in the hunting of smaller organisms yet easily subdued when faced against a larger creature alone.

(Hooray for what may be the longest thread on SnootySpore to ever be! Soon more members will come and I'll change the title if needed... wahahah)

master genesis
08-17-2005, 12:44 PM
I would have a large serpentine creature with many heads. With a huge body spand and many flippers and fins. :bouncy: It has heads that watch under water and above at the same time. ANd for a land creature maybe somthing kind of like a crab/insect. :rolleyes:

El Cid
08-17-2005, 12:44 PM
I'd like a small animal that could hunt in herds and still be at the top of the food-chain, kind of like a velociraptor (sp?). I have so many ideas.

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 12:49 PM
You can never be on top of the food chain until you build the hut.

El Cid
08-17-2005, 12:51 PM
Oh you've played and found out?

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 12:53 PM
If you have no predators in your world, the game will grab one from the server and drop it in your world. IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED.

El Cid
08-17-2005, 12:54 PM
But what if I am a predator? There will always be a top of the food chain and I will attempt to reach it.

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 12:57 PM
You'll just climb higher and higher and get more and more predators.

El Cid
08-17-2005, 12:59 PM
No, I don't think so, not when I disconnect my computer to the internet, by then the predators will stop coming and I will just dominate the feeble animals below me in the chain.

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 01:09 PM
The computer will take predators from the CD.

Nightshade
08-17-2005, 02:27 PM
The computer will take predators from the CD.

You don't get it, if he creates a gigantic monster with many teeth and the such then he'll be at the top of the food chain, theres a limit to what can be the greatest predator and if he creates it then..I don't know if I can get much more technical.

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 02:30 PM
Surely there can be enough predators and limits to prevent you from being on top.

Nightshade
08-17-2005, 02:33 PM
Surely there can be enough predators and limits to prevent you from being on top.

How so? If I create the biggest, meanest fighting machine thats extremely slow yet very powerful how could I lose? A medium sized creature will be hunter, Spore will use creatures that can be made so if I make the strongest possible creature then I'll be #1.

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 02:35 PM
Mr. Heat, can you help us clear this up?

Nightshade
08-17-2005, 02:47 PM
Mr. Heat, can you help us clear this up?

Mr.Heat probably wouldn't know, this thing is based on assumptions and Mr.Heat merely knows everything that can be read/watched out there.

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 02:49 PM
We may as well put this to rest, since there's no way to prove either of us right.

leech10
08-17-2005, 04:26 PM
Surely there can be enough predators and limits to prevent you from being on top.

How so? If I create the biggest, meanest fighting machine thats extremely slow yet very powerful how could I lose? A medium sized creature will be hunter, Spore will use creatures that can be made so if I make the strongest possible creature then I'll be #1.

The game will probable make tiny fast creatures that dart around you attacking your weakest spot before running away before you can attack them.

K.Kraden
08-17-2005, 04:35 PM
From the information given to us so far, it appears the game does not 'create' creatures to populate your world, but instead pulls creatures from a MASSIVE database included on the CD or the even larger database on the internet, based on what your current ecosystem is lacking. So... there are still holes that can be filled in to take advantage over the ecosystem.

El Cid
08-17-2005, 04:51 PM
And what if I cancel the possibility to do so? I download a bunch of noob herbivores then cancel all downloads and prohibit it from pulling new creatures from the CD somehow that could jeopardize my creatures reign as #1 on the food chain. Then theoretically, I would be at the top of the food chain. No other more efficient (i didnt use bigger because size isnt everything) predators could spawn on my world, becoming potential hazards.

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 05:22 PM
You will not control the downloads.

K.Kraden
08-17-2005, 06:23 PM
Yes, you will control the downloads. You can decide if they happen or not. Plus, a database comes on the CD anyway, so whether or not you have downloads enabled doesn't matter because you'll have thousands of different creatures anyway.

Astrodog
08-17-2005, 06:25 PM
I mean you won't control what creatures you'll get.

Nightshade
08-18-2005, 05:57 AM
I mean you won't control what creatures you'll get.

And what they mean is that you can make it so you won't get any new creatures, simply take away the game's ability to access the internet through a firewall and the such and then no more monsters!

OverlordBill
08-18-2005, 07:27 AM
Surely there can be enough predators and limits to prevent you from being on top.

How so? If I create the biggest, meanest fighting machine thats extremely slow yet very powerful how could I lose? A medium sized creature will be hunter, Spore will use creatures that can be made so if I make the strongest possible creature then I'll be #1.

Heat would give his usual non-committal answer to this I'm sure, so I'll try my hand at clearing it all up.

Small and fast creatures will be able to dart in and attack then rush away before getting hit. Alternately, your larger creature could be swarmed by the smaller fast moving creatures and taken down before you could get all of them. A flying creature could swoop down and take a few pecks before flying off again.

There's not going to be one type of design that's superior to all others. Strategy will have to come into play for some matches undoubtedly, but once you hit the tribal stage you'll be fighting with weapons, not claws and teeth.

And as to this halting the downloads vein, you won't be able to stop it from pulling creatures off the original cd files, because I'm sure they'll all be copied onto your computer and stored with the game files. The creature files won't be that large, and as it's been reported there could be thousands stored on the database on the cd, so I doubt you'll create the one creature that beats them all.

El Cid
08-18-2005, 08:08 AM
Well I am still pondering if you got a no-cd crack, then it would theoretically stop getting new animals now wouldn't it?

K.Kraden
08-18-2005, 08:34 AM
No-CD cracks work by taking all the files that are needed on the CD and placing them on the Hard drive, then remapping the game to read from wherever the required files are. So no.

El Cid
08-18-2005, 02:27 PM
Then why do you only need to switch the .exe with some no-cd cracks?

K.Kraden
08-18-2005, 02:42 PM
Because the executable still looks for the files on the CD. The new executable is modified so it looks for the files on the hard drive, not the CD.

El Cid
08-18-2005, 04:09 PM
Ah right, theoretically I could get rid of the species on my HD though, those not being used wouldnt be read, and if it doesnt have to look for them they wont notice them being gone. Which makes me wonder how often it will scan the CD/internet for new species.

master genesis
08-18-2005, 04:42 PM
Also think of all the other people that think there creature will be top predator if this good is as people are saying thats a lot of "mine will be the best"

K.Kraden
08-18-2005, 04:48 PM
you keep saying theoretically you can do this, and theoretically you can do that, but the game isn't even released yet. How can you say that when you don't know how the game is put together?

It's easily possible that the database will be hard-coded into some necessary file and thus impossible to remove. It's equally as probable that Spore will be impervious to CD cracks as many games are nowadays. Even if you are able to crack the game and remove the database... what do you think will happen once you run the game and the game tries to populate a world, only to find it has no resources? An unpopulated, barren game if you're lucky, a crash if you're not.

If you play the game though you'll come to the point where you can genocide all the creatures you don't want, and then create your own in their place. Wouldn't that be easier than screwing up your computer?

master genesis
08-18-2005, 04:51 PM
Yeah I going to have to go with K. Kraden with this one I mean why take the risk.

El Cid
08-18-2005, 06:37 PM
So far, Spore is only theory. For us atleast :P

leech10
08-19-2005, 08:23 AM
Even if there was some way you could change the creature database without having the game crash I won't do it, because i would like having the predators in there, as long as there aren't too many.

maxis
03-13-2006, 03:42 AM
i'm starting to really like this game....

*must get drawing*

munch
03-13-2006, 04:07 AM
i'm gunna make Trex :D

then i'll make a race of evil snow men :P

maxis
03-13-2006, 09:37 AM
right i have made some pictures.... lol i'll make some more then get my scanner on my pc and get them on this topic.

munch
03-15-2006, 04:00 AM
AWESOME! :D

sltlamina
03-15-2006, 04:59 AM
My Creature Is gonna be called...hmmm...Zyo (pronounced ZI-oh) or Zyattik...and It'll be like a dog/cat/other animal all In one...quite tall...6 legs and 2 tails both with graspers on...or maybe hands, And It might also have arms...I'm not to certain...It'll be herbivour and then evolve to omnivore then back, dunno why lol.

Mtg mage
03-24-2006, 08:45 PM
Hi, just found this place, joining and all :party:

First: Im going to make the enviroments parot fish/dolphin. conish body, big head (when I drew them they were cute) two pairs of fins, and a parot beak (of course) could someone try drawing for everyone? :love:

Second:A large, insectoid, reptile. Quadropedial, build kinda like a table, four stalks coming up with hairs (sonar) a circular body under the legs, two arms, and a mouth, might be herbivorous, small, pulling out flowers and stuff, or carnivouros, large, just picking up horses or things.

Third: Spherical, three legs, one eye and one mouth on either side not covered by the legs.

Sound good? :bouncy: :spin:

Raveler
03-30-2006, 07:35 PM
Ahh, a choice of creature-type.

Anyone ever read Vernor Vinge's "A Fire Upon the Deep" and "A Deepness in the Sky"?

I'd love to make a race of sentient plants, like the Skr0de riders, or a "pack" creature that actually thought across many sub-units...

Then there are the possibilities from McCaffery's "Tower and Hive"- Insectoids, Mrdini...

At least as starting points, it gives me a place to look. But I'm willing to wait until I get the game to make a final decision- on my first creature. I wish the game were coming out tomorrow rather than several months from now!

Mtg mage
03-30-2006, 09:13 PM
:( Its a year :(

Silarn
04-11-2006, 12:34 AM
I'd just like to mention that I believe you'll be forced to hand-make your original creature. I don't think there are 'presets' you can simply select and run with. Though it's likely you can 'start over' and make a new race, you'd probably be going way back to the bacterial stage. I'd go with the best you can for your first race - make it something you enjoy before advancing to tribal - then playing it out until you get your UFO. Once you do, you'll be able to enter whatever editor you want and go nuts.

While I believe it's been said that plants themselves cannot be made sentient/living, it's likely that you can create a plant-like creature and simply say it's a plant. ;)

As for me, I plan on making a strange but attractive land-based (maybe flying, I dunno) creature to be my sentient race. Personally, staying in the sea for the entire beginning of the game just makes me yawn. :zzz: I'm not going to try and get terribly specific until the game is running on my computer or we get heaps of new info. Even then, I don't know how maleable your creature is from generation to generation so features may simply emerge through that process.

I also plan on cleansing my home planet of anything I don't like and proceed to populate it, high and low, with my best stuff. ( :mischievous: Yes, cleanse the infidels, my precious, cleanse them... ) I'll likely end up with a zoo-o-interesting somewhere to deposit cool stuff on, make themed planets of my own, I dunno. Maybe even just keep some places that are neat in general. I'll probably just go nuts on some of them and see what happens.

Mtg mage
04-11-2006, 09:01 PM
Oh, about the predator thing, it puts in whats MISSING if you make a high predator its not missing a high prodator, see? there will be other predators, but if you put into it, you will be the top, I think the "theres always a higher predator" is kinda stupid :grumpy:

Yuewolf
04-12-2006, 05:38 PM
I'm going to make a hyper-intelligent form of the colour blue.

Bonkywop
04-27-2006, 12:44 AM
Oh, blue rules. I want - no, demand that we can blue-ify our creatures. Naturally I shall create an army of bonkywops, in their unusual kangaroo-wearing-hoodies guise they took when I went through an imaginary animal phase at primary school. From what I remember, they can comfortably walk or hop their way around smothered in dark blue rubbery fur, with hood-like extensions known as 'wops'. Why I still remember all this I don't know, but useful I do, as it would be interesting to see just how effective killing machines they make for. Unfortunately bonkywops were a peace-loving vegetarian hippy species, so they wouldn't last long before having their island reduced to ash by laser-wielding UFOs, likely piloted by their arch nemeses the nefarious wonkybops. At least they had their own theme tune. Hopefully that'll make up for the swift mass extinction I should anticipate.

Mtg mage
04-28-2006, 04:45 PM
That desirves a lmao

FireMaker
04-28-2006, 04:56 PM
I want to have a race of T-Shirts with legs.. and arms. and the eyes be right square in the center of it.

And maybe.. like.. a spear type gun thing.. in its 'neck' place.. yeah im weird.

WHTJunior
04-29-2006, 02:11 PM
The way it was explained at GDCE, Will said that your world will be populated with whatever it needs to be balanced, "so you may not always be at the top of the food chain." This doesn't mean that you'll never be, nor that the game will always be trying to outperform you. It just means that, early on, you might not be at the top.

As for removing the ability for the game to import creatures, what's the point? You want to play in a sterile world full of only your creatures? At that rate, you'd have to create stuff for your creatures to eat, then stuff for those creatures to eat, and so on, until you had to make everything, just for balance. Might be fun for some, but seems a bit tedious to me. Besides, that's not how you win, since being the only contestant also means you lose.

HolsteinCow
05-06-2006, 11:13 AM
I'm going to make a trilobite! :blush:

Tye
05-14-2006, 11:45 AM
My first will probably be a type of deformed monkey type with two pairs of legs, two pairs of arms, a few eyes, a tail and a bird-like back.

Once I get use to the game I will create water-creatures! :smile:

hourendous
05-18-2006, 01:01 PM
My first creature or one of my creatures, will be the flying eye guys fomr the final fantasy games, you know what i mean, the flying ehads with wings and giant eyes, im not comlpetely sure why iw ant to make them but i do. Then im going to try to make one of the most complicated creatures for the game to figur eout how its supposed to move, just to try to push the limits on the system, not sure how i will but i will, other things will eventually come to me but thats it for the moment,

imported_Mike
06-28-2006, 02:45 AM
I'm going to make my first one as strange looking as I can. Really weird :D

Krawen
07-03-2006, 10:18 AM
I think I'm going to make a creature that walks on 4 legs and has 2 arms at the front, both of those arms are sharp so that he can cut his enemies into little pieces!! I think it's going to be quit small, and really stealthy and lots and lots of camouflage :bouncy: and he has a long tail with at the end something like a tiny boll with spikes! ow yeah, and he's got 2 large wings on his back!

Andyandspore
07-05-2006, 01:40 PM
My first creature will have no protection and be a herbavore. Im doing this so I can see whats its like to be at the bottom of the food chain.

spore freak274
07-05-2006, 06:30 PM
if n e 1 here watch's south park i'm planning on making one on the aliens lol and c how long it takes for them 2 get eatin :laughing2:

Vwoot
08-03-2006, 08:02 AM
I plan to make a couple of creatures.

1:a tiger type animal with a wepon on its tail

2:a creature that has 1 eye, 1 mouth, 2 arms with grabbers,and 4 legs.

3:a flying snake thingy

4:a herbavore just to be at the bottom of the food chain

5:a creature that is underwater and can swim, but can stand up if it has too. think the mon calamari from starwars

o and what would be the point of being the top predatorof the food chain, it seems boring if you can just kill everything what would you do till you got to tribal?

Hazath
08-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Any trekkies out there? I wonder how a tribble would survive...

Gungnir
08-07-2006, 02:58 PM
I'd probably make an improved version of the human. Bigger muscles, maybe a spike or two. Horned head, etc.

I also want to make mythological creatures, a pegasus, chimera, manticore, stuff like that.

And maybe something that's spring shaped and has a single foot on the very end of it, and eyes all the way up on one side, and mouths all the way down on the other.

FireMaker
08-07-2006, 11:34 PM
Any trekkies out there? I wonder how a tribble would survive...
a tribble, no.

lots of tribbles, that could be interesting.

CoolCarlos1993
08-15-2006, 05:01 AM
I'm thinking about making a giant snake lizard with six legs with a razor sharp spike on his tail. And coz of his long body he can coil round prey and impale them with the spike. COOL :D

InvaderBlack
08-15-2006, 04:00 PM
I wanna make some kinda wolf like thing, that would eventually evolve into a bipedal were-wolf(sp) kinda thing. Or maybe some kind of winged wolf.

Another one would be a super awesome tiger-unicorn-dragon-pheonix... Mmm, that one could get confusing.

Gungnir
08-16-2006, 05:17 PM
ooh! something spikey! Like, a one legged sphere thing..with a bunch of spikes...and a mouth on top..and some spikes on the leg...and 2 eyeballs on tentacle things!