Immaturity and its effects!

[Nightshade]

As you know the world in Spore will automatically fill up with creatures your world needs. Unfortunately as you may know, immaturity may destory this. There will probably be people who try to make things such as walking male genitalia ><

What do you think will be done, if anything, to prevent this? I don't want my universe to be a peice of crap!

[Mr.Heat]

I don't think Maxis is that stupid to allow these kind of things, so if your'e lets say in the early stages, you won't have to face very strong enemies..


About those gross things, when those will be submitted, and people will complain, Maxis will look for the IP the creature was sent from, and take care of him :D



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[OverlordBill]

Uh... No... If the game automatically grabs all your creatures once you connect to the internet and you can't stop it, then people could quite reasonably claim that they didn't mean for that "profane" creature to get on the server. You can't hold someone responsible for anything they created being uploaded without their own triggering action and it being redistributed without their exact knowledge by an indiscriminate machine to people who could possibly find offense to anything. Think of it this way. If someone made a cow, it was transferred to someone who happens to be Hindu's computer, and they take offense that other creatures kill the cow creature, it would be nearly impossible for them to start a successful lawsuit against Maxis or the creator of the creature.

What's more likely to happen is that Maxis will pull such creatures from their servers, and you will probably have the option to block certain creatures on your own end.

[KD]

There might be moderators on the officle site that pick which creatures will be put into other people's games.

i don't think that will happen, because it doesn't just fill the world up with random creatures, it picks which ones are needed to create a good ecosystem and keep a balance, i don't think big, walking genetalia would be a creature that the server would pick for completing and ecosystem, but there will probably be ways to get rid of species, or a re-generate button or something that will go through and create a new ecosystem, so don't worry, plus, you can just get animals from a database on the CD if you don't wanna be connected to the server :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

[MrErops]

Hopefully, Maxis has thought (an I am pretty sure they did) about this and will some how prevent it. :rolleyes:

[strillor]

I so much hope that maxis will like remember that

it says bang in Will Wrights head "damn, I don't want living bubbies hoping around in this game" and then he says that to his workers and they do something really clever to prevent it.... :laughing2:

[Mr.Heat]

Don't you think that Maxis is smart enough to already think and find a solution for this? come on, they made the sims! ;)




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[strillor]

in the sims,, the content made stuff didn't come in automaticly! they will here..

There's tons of ugly downloads for the sims,,,,,, and that could come automaticly into spore :confused: now I'm confusing my self!

[10-Neon]

...I suppose if any given race offends you, you could simply annihilate it.

[Mr.Heat]

in the sims,, the content made stuff didn't come in automaticly! they will here..

There's tons of ugly downloads for the sims,,,,,, and that could come automaticly into spore :confused: now I'm confusing my self!

There will be filtiring...i mentioned the sims not because of the content downloading, but because of the genius that made that game, the smart AI and the wonderful graphics...i'm sure Maxis did consider those things, and i'm sure they'll find a way to stop it from happening.



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[OverlordBill]

The Sims were hardly smart. If you made a five story house they'd pick the bed/toilet/grill farthest from their current position ninety percent of the time even in there was one in the next room over. Or how about when they put the baby back in its crib when the house is on fire? Or any of the fifty million other stupid little things they did while everyone else was praising the AI for being so advanced just because they had needs and fears.

At the current level of technology we as a global culture have, it would be incredibly difficult to make an automatic filter that removes all inappropriate content. And if one was created, it would probably remove perfectly fine creatures as well because, this may come as a shock, phallic imagery is only phallic because we already have an obsession with sex. Lollipops and swords would still look that way whether evolution had created the current reproductive organs or not.

Now, I don't want to see planets inhabited by creatures intentionally made to be offensive, so here's my two cents for a filter.

Those who sign up to Spore and are over eighteen could recieve content the minute it was uploaded. They would review it, and after it recieves enough positive votes it would be released to those who sign up as under the age of eighteen. A perfect system, as you would have to have over twenty accounts to have any chance of balancing the votes in your favor, which means twenty CDs, or in the ball park of a thousand dollars in monetary terms.

[Mr.Heat]

Well, i guess we'll have to wait and see....



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[Jeskim]

yea, kill the party. we were makin good ideas!or they were! we clouda told them the ideas amd it woulda happend! part killer!! im j/k dont kill me


We won'tl, just please don't use too much capitals :D .Heat

[Iwillregistersoon]

I like the reviewing system idea. :spin:

[master genesis]

It sounds like a good idea but kids are going to think that if they lie about their age then they will have more game play and less ristktions. I mean i lied about my age to go look at the reviews of prince of persia 2. i mean im not saying that its not a good idea its just that kids will think that they will be treated like kids if they don't lie about there age. And if you see what im talkin about please comment on this. And im not going to lie to you i am 13 and more mature than my friends and i do not wish to ruin anyones game play experience. :indifferent:

[Astrodog]

Eh,you're right. I suppose that maybe we could just put an option there to test the races before they're realeased to the general public...

[leech10]

Eh,you're right. I suppose that maybe we could just put an option there to test the races before they're realeased to the general public...

That would be good, that way all of the crap stuff like immature creatures, or thousands of TV creature recreations will be kept out of every one else's game. If you want that stuff, keep it in your own copy of Spore instead of spreading it everywhere else.

[K.Kraden]

They might have to just can the whole 'automatic' idea, and opt for a more traditional online 'shopping center' where you go thru an online catalogue and get whichever species/buildings/whatever you want manually. I hope that's not the case though because I really liked the idea where the game watches what you create and dynamically populates your game with similar stuff, in case you need it.

Actually... if the game can search for buildings based on the shape and style the player is using, couldn't Maxis also put in templates of nasty things as well?

[El Cid]

I was thinking the species that go onto your computer would be made to fit your enviroment and balance it out. Not that you have a planet full of vegetarians and you are the only carnivore or so. I dunno how they'd do it, which factors would be important in such a filtering, but I'd like it rather than random inserting.

[K.Kraden]

Well Will Wright was explaining in the video how he could create or place down a few buildings and the game would be able to 'look' at the models he was using to find other, similar structures. If the game can do that, then it's only a small step from simply giving the game a template of models of everything that is to be watched for, and then the game can examine any of the incoming or outgoing models and block them accordingly.

Since this is -slightly- risky, since what the Spore game might see as a penis is really just a tall creature with an oddly shaped head, a way around that problem would be to merely block questionable creatures from being put into the online database. That way if someone wants to make walking genitalia they can, and anyone who has innocent intentions can do the same, their creatures just won't be included in the database. Sure we'd miss out on a few creatures, but the majority would make it through and it would also keep bad ones out.

[Astrodog]

Or just have mods at Maxis.

[Nightshade]

Or just have mods at Maxis.

True but if the game's popular there'll be huge influxes of creatures and buildings, and no army of mods, (not to mention the costs etc.) could handle it. I suppose the only choice is if you don't like the genitalia people then avoid that planet or when you're strong enough destory them!

[OverlordBill]

I still like my idea of a player-based voting system supervised by mods hired by Maxis. A random sampling of majority denied creatures should point out who was being a smartass that voted for its acceptance and allow their voting privelage suspended indefinitely.

[K.Kraden]

That really is the best way to do it, the only problems would be that the system would be somewhat inefficient if every creature had to be OK'ed by players and a mod before it could go into the database. Actually, on second thought, scratch that. That's what thesims2.com does for its download system, and they do just fine.

I hope your idea is implemented. People have a lot easier time seeing into the gray areas of a subject than a computer does.

[chocolatemax]

I doubt this will happen, Will Wright is smarter than that, he will have some sort of safegaurd.

[K.Kraden]

I think another thing to remember is that the creature evolution stage takes time. If someone wants to make a penis, I doubt they'd be able to do it in one pass. Can you imagine trying to evolve something gross out of a primordial blob? This also applies to certain races of pikachus and peter griffins (sorry Astro, hehe). Making these characters over a long period of time might be a lot more difficult than one would think. It would take patience as well as planning, so you would know exactly when in the evolutionary stage to add what part, and to evolve another, that way the creature can not only survive to the end stages of its evolution, but also so that the creature ends up being a pretty accurate replica of whatever it is that the creature is ripping off of.

Then again, all those limits hold no more sway once you reach the interstellar phase, when you unlock the ability to edit anything you want in any way you want.

[Nightshade]

I think another thing to remember is that the creature evolution stage takes time. If someone wants to make a penis, I doubt they'd be able to do it in one pass. Can you imagine trying to evolve something gross out of a primordial blob? This also applies to certain races of pikachus and peter griffins (sorry Astro, hehe). Making these characters over a long period of time might be a lot more difficult than one would think. It would take patience as well as planning, so you would know exactly when in the evolutionary stage to add what part, and to evolve another, that way the creature can not only survive to the end stages of its evolution, but also so that the creature ends up being a pretty accurate replica of whatever it is that the creature is ripping off of.

Then again, all those limits hold no more sway once you reach the interstellar phase, when you unlock the ability to edit anything you want in any way you want.

We don't really know, Will was able to change it from a blob to the tripod very quickly, and even if he did use cheats then whats stopping the immature kid from using them to make one?

[OverlordBill]

Then again, all those limits hold no more sway once you reach the interstellar phase, when you unlock the ability to edit anything you want in any way you want.

Let's read the whole quote if we use the whole thing, shall we?

[Mr.Heat]

Ok, i had to remove something like 5 posts due to off-topic and Spam.


Cut it out people.


Astro: If you have anything random you'd want to say, say it in the off topic threads.


And if you guys care so that much about staying on topic, you can just PM me with a link to the thread and i'll take care of it.



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[Astrodog]

I honestly don't think that it would be that bad, (Actually a little funny) but I think they should use the ERSB - Gaming Experience may change during online play - thing and maybe parents would make sure they set the game to "Don't Download" before their kids play.

[Nightshade]

I honestly don't think that it would be that bad, (Actually a little funny) but I think they should use the ERSB - Gaming Experience may change during online play - thing and maybe parents would make sure they set the game to "Don't Download" before their kids play.

It does it automatically.. theres no setting for don't download. The only option is to block the game's access to the internet with a firewall.

[Astrodog]

Ahem. If you don't have an internet connection, whaddya do?

[strillor]

Ahem. If you don't have an internet connection, whaddya do?

if you don't have an internet connection, you wont be able to upload others creatures, planets / worlds :bouncy:

[Mr.Heat]

Ahem. If you don't have an internet connection, whaddya do?

if you don't have an internet connection, you wont be able to upload others creatures, planets / worlds :bouncy:

or download neither, but EA already talked about alternatives for this issue.



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