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Cerebral Stasis
09-07-2005, 01:14 PM
A compendium of a few planet-based questions I've asked elsewhere:

There are a few things that I'm curious if Maxis will take into account.

For one, gravity. Will different sizes of planet have different types of gravity (and thus affect the creatures and such on them)?

Secondly, atmospheric density. I know that WW mentioned that, in order for plants AND animals to survive, the planet had to have a full atmosphere, but is it possible for the atmosphere to, for example, become so thick that it traps too much sunlight and causes the planet to overheat?

Thirdly, stars. WW mentioned in the video preview that he wanted to "stay away" from that giant star, because it will be turning super-nova soon. Now, would that actually happen? Do the stars change over time, so that stars are born, "grow up" (or "fill out"), and die?

Fourth, will things like a black hole be able to be explored, or is it just there for looks?

And finally, will one be able to use the planet-destroying weapon on their OWN planet, if they wish?

By the way, although I know that the planets are computer-generated, once generated for the first time, will the computer remember them (versus randomly generating them each time you visit them)? For example, in the case of the demo, WW went to a certain system and destroyed the only planet. Now, would he later be able to go back to that same system and have everything the way he left it, or would the computer randomly generate a new system? Oh, and by the way, can those ring fragments over time combine to form a new planet again?

I'm curious; does anyone know if moons will be inhabitable? Also, will gravity realistically deteriorate over time (so that, in some cases, the moons one day crash into the planet)? What about the meteors? Will they ever actually hit a planet and affect it (would be cool if a few brought life, messed up the biosphere/atmosphere, or just cause large craters (maybe even craters were cities used to be). Ditto asteroids?

K.Kraden
09-07-2005, 05:28 PM
-EDIT- somehow, this post that I posted in a completely different thread made it here. I'm terribly sorry for the interruption.

whatever
09-07-2005, 05:53 PM
Is everyones planet and system going to be the same? If not, will this hinder the abililty to create the creature you want, what if its a hot planet and theres no water or a cold planet and the water is frozen?



Oh, correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt it a moon Will colonized once he got the UFO?

09-07-2005, 07:30 PM
Is everyones planet and system going to be the same? If not, will this hinder the abililty to create the creature you want, what if its a hot planet and theres no water or a cold planet and the water is frozen?
He mentioned in the video that planets will be hot or cold, airid or wet, depending on where they are in relation to the sun.



Oh, correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt it a moon Will colonized once he got the UFO?
No, it was a planet; it was just a very distant one (and had no atmosphere, which means it couldn't have water, since water will evaporate instantly in areas of low pressure).

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...lets you know if you need to invest in more brains or not.
What are you talking about? It sounds like you intended to post that in the verb thread (http://www.snootyspore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260).

Cerebral Stasis
09-07-2005, 07:41 PM
Is everyones planet and system going to be the same? If not, will this hinder the abililty to create the creature you want, what if its a hot planet and theres no water or a cold planet and the water is frozen?

I believe that, according to what WW has said/hinted, the home planet (as well as many other words) will be randomly generated to support your creature. In other words, if your creature is land-inhabiting, the home planet (and other planets that will be encountered later) will have more land, while if one's creature lives in the water, there will be more water on your planet, as well as on other planets. As for the home planet being inhospitable, I think that can pretty much be ruled out, since life evolved there (so it would need an enviroment with an atmosphere, water, vegitation, and such).

K.Kraden
09-08-2005, 06:38 AM
Cerebral is right. If you are native to the planet then it is impossible for it to be inhospitable. you would have evolved around those elements which means you'd be used to em.

And I didn't mean to put what I said in the verb thread, I DID put it in the verb thread; somehow, my post was posted in this thread instead of that one. It's the computer's fault, though how it happened I don't know.

Cerebral Stasis
09-08-2005, 11:00 AM
It's not so much about being used to them, but more that they would have to support life for life to have evolved (thus, it couldn't be overly hot, or overly cold, and it would need some vegitation, water, and an atmosphere).

K.Kraden
09-08-2005, 04:32 PM
Well the thing you're forgetting is, not all life has to be terran standard. If you have a very thick atmosphere on a planet and life evolves there, then the life will have to have a higher density atmosphere to survive. if your creatures are on an incredibly hot planet, maybe 120 degrees is freezing cold for them.

I heard that different creatures will have different needs, depending on their home environment, and a paradise of a world for one species might be a craphole for another.

I also think I heard somewhere that yeah, you can have overly dense atmospheres, so I'd assume you can have high gravity and hot and cold planets as well.

Cerebral Stasis
09-08-2005, 10:21 PM
I hope they do take into account the gravity of planets/their moons/their stars. It would add a lot to the realism of the game.

And, concerning having creatures feel differently about different enviroments, I never thought of it in that perspective. Thanks for clarifying.

master genesis
09-09-2005, 03:19 PM
Do you think gravity would be different on other planets, it seems reasonable, but complicated I would be suprised if it was in the game.

K.Kraden
09-09-2005, 05:23 PM
Oh it wouldn't be complicated to implement at all. In fact, you'd only need one variable. If a planet has a size of 1, it has a gravity of 1. If it has a size of 2, it has gravity 2. See? Easy as pie.

Astrodog
09-09-2005, 05:31 PM
Here's a question: On the levels of terraformality, is 1 impossible to terraform, only terraformable with the Genesis Device, or does it just take the longest?

Cerebral Stasis
09-10-2005, 07:06 AM
I believe that 1 (I'm not sure exactly how the systems works; whether it's from 1 to 10, ten being the easiest, or 1 to 10, five being the easiest) means it can't be terraformed at all (even with the G device), since it would be too close/far from the sun for anything to survive. Then, low numbers, like 2 and 3, would mean it would take a long time, and only plants could survive (the planet just wouldn't support animals). Then it goes on from there.

master genesis
09-12-2005, 01:44 PM
Wait, wait, wait, if gravity could be implemented that would complicate how the artist in the box thinks of how something moves, for instance flying how would you feel if the gravity on the planet eas to high to evolve into an airborne creature, and what of physiques... what i'm saying is gravity would change the way the game's way of thinking dom't you. :indifferent:

Astrodog
09-12-2005, 02:03 PM
Gravity on your home planet could always be regular.

gg2112
09-12-2005, 05:54 PM
I think gravity will always be the same, no matter what... But I wouldn't know know for sure! 8-)

Actually, I don't think Spore will be that detailed, since the Sims wasn't, really, but you never know... This isn't the Sims! Maybe you're asking excellent questions -- that we'll hopefully find out the actual answers to sooner or later, you know, rather than guessing at them the whole time.

Astrodog
09-12-2005, 06:16 PM
I don't think there should be any planets like Jupiter, that have such powerful gravity you'll sink in and die the second you step foot on it... :indifferent:

gg2112
09-12-2005, 06:19 PM
I don't think there should be any planets like Jupiter, that have such powerful gravity you'll sink in and die the second you step foot on it... :indifferent:

Hahaha, that would be a sight! :laughing2: Poor creatures! It could be a creative way to kill off your species if you are one of those evil Spore species-killing players... :shocked:

"Hmm this looks like a nice planet... I think I'll check it out... OH NO!!" Shwooop! -- Splat! "Well, finally got rid of that species." :blush:

Cerebral Stasis
09-12-2005, 07:23 PM
I don't think there should be any planets like Jupiter, that have such powerful gravity you'll sink in and die the second you step foot on it... :indifferent:
There's a reason that they're called "gas giants". Solid planets (as far as we know) don't get to be that large, but there's still implications of worlds with maybe 3 to 5 times Earth's gravity, or maybe just a third. Gravity would affect the terraforming (the higher the gravity, the more the atmosphere is held to the planet).

K.Kraden
09-12-2005, 11:13 PM
Message deleted. Move along, folks.

Cerebral Stasis
09-13-2005, 05:10 AM
Oy, this thread is turning into a prime example of when people take something completely out of context and then run with it.
Once again, I must ask to what are you referring? Are you talking about my own posts, or the other posts? Regardless, it all fits into the theme of "Space-Based Questions".

Mr.Heat
09-13-2005, 05:36 AM
Oy, this thread is turning into a prime example of when people take something completely out of context and then run with it.

Again Kraden, we don't need any preaches or moralizing, that's why there's an admin you can PM and report, instead you're making a post that's also off topic, and provokes people to go off topic. I appreciate your concern about going off topic and spamming, but PMing me is the best solution.



Ok, regardless of what have happend here, let's go back on topic.



Heat

Flank57
09-25-2005, 07:19 PM
Could anyone explain to me what the white planet-like body with the black eyes and spikes is?

http://www.snootyspore.com/pics/spore068.jpg
thats some pretty cool spinal work they did there, quite a task to mate though :rolleyes: