AMD Processor Users?

[ManagerJosh]

Just wondering here, if I can get a sample demographics here. I've been noticing a common occurance with AMD Users not being able to take advantage of Body Shop so want to see if I can isolate the issue:

Could AMD Processor users (no Not Intel People) AMD users who have body shop answer the following?

Please get the following information from DXDIAG:


Processor:
Memory:
System Manufacturer
System Model:
Operating System:
DirectX Version:

Display Device Name:
Chip Type:

Last but not least, does body shop work for you? :)

[MeanReitz]

I've already posted about this on the BBS but I figured it wouldn't hurt to put it here as well. I am running a AMD 2100 and when I first installed bodyshop it worked fine. After a week or so it crashed on me, no idea why, tried the help page fixes now it runs but has the invisible Sim. Anyway here's the computer specs. This is a computer my dad built for me, if that helps any.

System Manufacturer: GBT___
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 256MB used, 2206MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.09
Card name: RADEON 8500 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 8500 AGP (0x514C)02 32bit Unicode
Display Memory: 64.0 MB


oh yeah and I have RAID but I really don't believe that's a factor..? anyway that's it off the top of my head, if I think of something else or I forgot something I'll add it later.

[KatAnubis]

I've already posted about this on the BBS but I figured it wouldn't hurt to put it here as well. I am running a AMD 2100 and when I first installed bodyshop it worked fine. After a week or so it crashed on me, no idea why, tried the help page fixes now it runs but has the invisible Sim. Anyway here's the computer specs. This is a computer my dad built for me, if that helps any.

System Manufacturer: GBT___
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 256MB used, 2206MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.09
Card name: RADEON 8500 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 8500 AGP (0x514C)02 32bit Unicode
Display Memory: 64.0 MB


oh yeah and I have RAID but I really don't believe that's a factor..? anyway that's it off the top of my head, if I think of something else or I forgot something I'll add it later.
One of the theories about "invisible Sims" is that there is something in the motherboard that makes a difference. Perhaps that should be listed as well. It's confusing since some people have been able to fix it by putting in another Athalon processor (but an older one). Others have fixed it by changing to a different video card.

Hopefully someone will figure this out because it's frustrating a lot of people. (I don't have the problem, but I'm keeping an eye out for solutions. I figure that way I'll learn more about how computers work. Also, I may be able to help someone who does have the problem.)

[MeanReitz]

I think it's frustrating because really my computer should be more than enough to run the game, I don't know really. My dad and I are going to see what video cards he has laying around but honestly I won't spend more money on it to get it running. If my pre-ordered copy of the Sims2 doesn't run I suppose I'll be selling it on e-bay. I'm still crossing my fingers in the hopes that something will be resolved before the September release date or perhaps AMD will be clued in and offer a fix themselves. It's also weird but I could never get Sims Online to run on my computer but every other game seems to work fine. I am having some problems with my RAID and I'm going to be taking the computer over to my dad's this weekend to fix that. He offered to take a look at BS to see if he could figure something out, but he's just a Microsoft Engineer so *chuckles* he'll probably just charge me 70 dollars a minute and speak in a new language while asking if I "rebooted" the computer. :winks:

P.S. As far as the motherboard I'm not sure... AMD 761?

[ManagerJosh]

I've already posted about this on the BBS but I figured it wouldn't hurt to put it here as well. I am running a AMD 2100 and when I first installed bodyshop it worked fine. After a week or so it crashed on me, no idea why, tried the help page fixes now it runs but has the invisible Sim. Anyway here's the computer specs. This is a computer my dad built for me, if that helps any.

System Manufacturer: GBT___
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 256MB used, 2206MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.09
Card name: RADEON 8500 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 8500 AGP (0x514C)02 32bit Unicode
Display Memory: 64.0 MB


oh yeah and I have RAID but I really don't believe that's a factor..? anyway that's it off the top of my head, if I think of something else or I forgot something I'll add it later.

Any chance you know your motherboard manufacturer, model, and chipset? :)

[MeanReitz]

You know I'm not really sure how to check? Short of taking it apart? All I'm seeing is System Model AWRDACPI, I'd have to ask my father and unfortunately he's not home from work yet lol. I'll have to give him a call later tonight.

[MeanReitz]

Hey I got it working! I checked other gaming sites for other games experiencing problems with AMD processors, and one suggested changing the compatibility to Windows 98, so I right clicked on the Bodyshop shortcut, changed to compatibility for Windows 98 and now it works... go figure! I posted it on the BBS as well hopefully it might work for someone else.. of all the things!

[FaeLuna]

Yay I'm glad you got it working! And thanks for telling us HOW you got it to work... wow, that's weird having to change the compatability, but I think I've heard of having to do that with other things before. I'll have to remember to try that next time something goes wrong like that....

[KatAnubis]

Hey I got it working! I checked other gaming sites for other games experiencing problems with AMD processors, and one suggested changing the compatibility to Windows 98, so I right clicked on the Bodyshop shortcut, changed to compatibility for Windows 98 and now it works... go figure! I posted it on the BBS as well hopefully it might work for someone else.. of all the things!
Yeah!!! I hope that other people can benefit from your experience.

[msemliitah]

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0GHz
Memory:608MB RAM
System Manufacturer: eMachines, Inc
System Model: L7VMM2
Operating System: Windows XP Home
DirectX Version: 9.0b

Display Device Name: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR
Chip Type: S3 ProSavage DDR
Memory: 32 MB

Ok, BodyShop works for me with exception to the invisible sim. I know my video card is unsupported, but I also know several people have had the same card and processor, replaced their cards with new supported cards, and still had the same problem. At the moment I'm waiting for someone to pop up with the same processor and system model as I have that have bodyshop working, and find out what video card they have..until I have that, I'm expecting that I'll have to probably go out and get a whole new computer basically(upgrading the motherboard and the video card)..anyways I hope you'll post anything you find on the sims home bbs as well ManagerJosh..

[bratnic]

Are you still doing this?

Processor: AMD Athlon 3000+ (2.2 GHz)
Memory: 512 MB DDR RAM
System Manufacturer: eMachines / owned by Gateway
System Model: T3092
Operating System: Windows XP
DirectX Version: Directx 9 (the one that works with bodyshop)

Display Device Name: nVidia GeForce FX5200 PCI 128MB DDR
Chip Type:??

Last but not least, does body shop work for you?
Yes... very well actually... except my sims come up black in the showcase.

[Kory]

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/25/2004, 14:21:59
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: PC028A-ABA A620N
BIOS: Phoenix - Award BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 448MB RAM
Page File: 245MB used, 809MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

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Display Devices
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Card name: VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP
Manufacturer: VIA/S3 Graphics, Inc.
Chip type: VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP
DAC type: Internal
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
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Body Shop runs fine in terms of letting me create and even export models, but there's no mannequin which means I'm pretty much flying blind. Yeah, okay, my integrated video card isn't the best, but I'm well above specs overall, and I'm not going to run out and buy a new video card just to play the Sims 2.

And no, switching compatability did nothing.

I refuse to buy a copy of the game until such time as I'm assured it will work on my machine, so I sure hope someone figures this out. Guess it's a good thing I hadn't yet pre-ordered.

[ManagerJosh]

DId you try one of the body shop solutions we listed on the forums?

[Kory]

DId you try one of the body shop solutions we listed on the forums?
As I said, the work-around did nothing.

[KatAnubis]

DId you try one of the body shop solutions we listed on the forums?
The problem is probably with the video card. People who have the S3 video cards are having a really tough problem with invisible Sims. (Prosavage does it too.)

I've heard a rumor that Maxis may have worked out a fix for the incompatibilities (which are not just for TS2 but for other games such as Age of Mythology as well), but so far no one has said what they are and they have not begun to list those cards as being "supported" when the changed the supported list recently.

[Kory]

Thanks, KatAnubis. I'm unfortunately not surprised, ultimately, that it's an issue, but I'm disappointed since the published game specs make it sound like video card is only important at low processor speed.

[KatAnubis]

Thanks, KatAnubis. I'm unfortunately not surprised, ultimately, that it's an issue, but I'm disappointed since the published game specs make it sound like video card is only important at low processor speed.
It's a shame that they don't publish a "recommended" set of specs. That would be more indicative of how important the video card is.

However, whenever it has come up on the official BBS in the TS2 part, MaxisLucky has told us that although it may run close to the minimums, if you want a good gaming experience the key really is to have the best possible video card your machine can use with the most video memory. While that doesn't get published in the "specs" it should warn us that lower quality or older cards won't do as well.

[daddy]

Hiya,

I have an:

AMD Athlon 1800+ 1.5Ghz
384MB RAM
GeForce 3 200ti 128MB Ram

Body Shop works great for me. Not one problem...(course now that I say this... LOL).

D

[Kory]

[...] if you want a good gaming experience the key really is to have the best possible video card your machine can use with the most video memory.
I don't mind if it runs slow as long as it runs. I just don't have the spare cash to buy a new video card, and certainly not that AND a brand-new $50 game. I just spent all my free cash on this computer! (The old one would have died if I'd brought the game into the same room, let alone tried to install it.)

I'm not really big into gaming, and most of the games I own are older anyhow (like, say, the original Sims :D), and will run fine on this box w/o a new video card. It's true at some point I intend to upgrade but it's going to be a while before I can.

For the sake of others reading this thread: I've tried the various hardware acceleration settings on this card. On about half of them Body Shop just crashes; on the other half, I have the same problem with the invisible Sim. So unfortunately there probably isn't anything that can be done other than either getting a new card or hoping Maxis can find a fix.

[Mirelly]

Re Kory's S3 card woes ... I always thought that Maxis's min sys requirements looked a bit optimistic for PCs without a T&L video card. (S3 isn't a T&L job). I suspect that by Sunday 19th Sept there'll be hoards of angry/disappointed customers clogging the returns desks at PCWorlds clones all over the planet .... :(

[ringleesim]

Just wondering here, if I can get a sample demographics here. I've been noticing a common occurance with AMD Users not being able to take advantage of Body Shop so want to see if I can isolate the issue:

Could AMD Processor users (no Not Intel People) AMD users who have body shop answer the following?

Please get the following information from DXDIAG:


Processor:
Memory:
System Manufacturer
System Model:
Operating System:
DirectX Version:

Display Device Name:
Chip Type:

Last but not least, does body shop work for you? :)



Here are my specs. Oh, and Bodyshop works great!:D :


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System Information

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Time of this report: 8/28/2004, 13:09:31

Machine name: EDDIE

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.030422-1633)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: Compaq Presario 061

System Model: DQ106A-ABA S5100CL NA310

BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/13/03 17:16:52 Ver: 08.00.08

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+, ~2.1GHz

Memory: 512MB RAM, but 64MB used

Page File: 197MB used, 861MB available

Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

DX Setup Parameters: /PackageInstall

DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0904 32bit Unicode


---------------

Display Devices

---------------

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type: GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU

DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01F0&SUBSYS_80C01043&REV_A3

Display Memory: 64.0 MB

Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (16 bit) (72Hz)

Monitor: COMPAQ FP5315 Flat Panel Monitor

Monitor Max Res: 1024,768

Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll

Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4523 (English)

DDI Version: 9 (or higher)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 7/28/2003 16:19:00, 3902603 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

WHQL Date Stamp: n/a

VDD: n/a

Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys

Mini VDD Date: 7/28/2003 16:19:00, 1341339 bytes

Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42B0-11CF-5862-CAA002C2CB35}

Vendor ID: 0x10DE

Device ID: 0x01F0

SubSys ID: 0x80C01043

Revision ID: 0x00A3

Revision ID: 0x00A3

Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D

Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

Registry: OK

DDraw Status: Enabled

D3D Status: Enabled

AGP Status: Enabled

DDraw Test Result: Not run

D3D7 Test Result: Not run

D3D8 Test Result: Not run

D3D9 Test Result: Not run

YW!!!:D

[suceress]

Here are my system specs

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3dNow, ~1.4GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 04
System Model: D7210Y-ABA 9905
Operating System: Windows XP Home (5.1, Build 2600)
Board: Asus Tech A7M266-M 1.06
Bus Clock: 200mHz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies LTD 3.08 08/31/2001

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b
Display Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Chip Type: GeForce4 Ti 4600
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Approx. Total Memory (video): 128MB

I also have over 90Gb of free harddrive space.
BodyShop runs rather slowly for me and often goes into "program not responding" mode when I try to close it. I have to Ctrl Alt Del and End Task several times and it takes up to 10 minutes to shut down. Which is annoying when I want to open another program like EverQuest. I've found I cannot run BodyShop and EQ at the same time. At least I can run Photoshop 5.0 LE at the same time though.
I'm about to see if adjusting the compatibility works.

[suceress]

I forgot to mention that I can only run BodyShop and Photoshop at the same time if I open Bodyshop first. If I have Photoshop open then Bodyshop will not open.
The compatibility thing seemed to work once but the next time I tried to close bodyshop it locked up and would not close again. I think it even loaded slower after I changed compatibility.

[Mirelly]

Have you checked for the latest drivers for your GeForce card? also you need to get the latest version of DirectX 9c http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx?url=/windows/directx/downloads/default.htm

I have a quite similar system (but with slightly faster cpu and more video ram :p ) and it runs BodyShop and PhotoShop with no problems (plus numerous other programs usually ... tho' I still shut down most stuff before playing hiigh demand games like SC4)

Hope this sorts you out! :)

[ringleesim]

Here are my specs. Oh, and Bodyshop works great!:D :


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System Information

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Time of this report: 8/28/2004, 13:09:31

Machine name: EDDIE

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.030422-1633)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: Compaq Presario 061

System Model: DQ106A-ABA S5100CL NA310

BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/13/03 17:16:52 Ver: 08.00.08

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+, ~2.1GHz

Memory: 512MB RAM, but 64MB used

Page File: 197MB used, 861MB available

Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

DX Setup Parameters: /PackageInstall

DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0904 32bit Unicode


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Display Devices

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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type: GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU

DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01F0&SUBSYS_80C01043&REV_A3

Display Memory: 64.0 MB

Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (16 bit) (72Hz)

Monitor: COMPAQ FP5315 Flat Panel Monitor

Monitor Max Res: 1024,768

Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll

Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4523 (English)

DDI Version: 9 (or higher)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 7/28/2003 16:19:00, 3902603 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

WHQL Date Stamp: n/a

VDD: n/a

Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys

Mini VDD Date: 7/28/2003 16:19:00, 1341339 bytes

Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42B0-11CF-5862-CAA002C2CB35}

Vendor ID: 0x10DE

Device ID: 0x01F0

SubSys ID: 0x80C01043

Revision ID: 0x00A3

Revision ID: 0x00A3

Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D

Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering

{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch

Registry: OK

DDraw Status: Enabled

D3D Status: Enabled

AGP Status: Enabled

DDraw Test Result: Not run

D3D7 Test Result: Not run

D3D8 Test Result: Not run

D3D9 Test Result: Not run

YW!!!:D



I now how SP2.

[suceress]

Have you checked for the latest drivers for your GeForce card? also you need to get the latest version of DirectX 9c http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx?url=/windows/directx/downloads/default.htm

I have a quite similar system (but with slightly faster cpu and more video ram :p ) and it runs BodyShop and PhotoShop with no problems (plus numerous other programs usually ... tho' I still shut down most stuff before playing hiigh demand games like SC4)

Hope this sorts you out! :)Thanks. I never load the video card drivers from Microsoft. I made that mistake once and will never do it again. It screwed over my computer so badly that I had to do a system restore because the drivers from the page were corrupted. Alot of people I talked to had the same problem with the ones from Microsoft's page. I check the NVIDIA page for updates and get my drivers updated frequently.
I'll have to go and load the new dirextx thing. I just hope that the newest version of directx is ok with EQ and Starwars. Going to find out now...
Again, thank you. :-)
Updating: I just loaded the directx thing but when it went to install it said one of the files necessary could "not be trusted" and failed to install. ugh. I'll have to figure out what went wrong and mess with it later.

[Mirelly]

LOL Suc ... I've had that sort of trouble before. I think that you really do need DirectX version 9c tho ... and NVIDIA is the best place to get it as you can get the latest drivers at the same time. DirectX should be backwards compatible so you ought not have new problems with existing software ... now where have I heard that before?

[Kory]

Okay, I managed to get my hands on an inexpensive ATI Radeon 9600 and find room in my budget for it, and now Body Shop runs fine. So now they just have to release the game. NOW NOW NOW NOW.

[suceress]

Ok, I FINALLY got the directx9.0c to install properly and now when I tell BodyShop to close it does it promptly. :-)
Thank you so much for the help! :-)

[Mirelly]

My pleasure, Suc. It always pays to check the really basic stuff first. LOL

I just saw a TV computer game show (in the UK) and it showed some really serious bits of TS2 action. Thank goodness we're down to T minus 6 days is what I say .... :D

[ringleesim]

okay Idont have sp2 now since I used system restore to get rid of some errors and some big nasty bugs, but I'm fine.

[Cloudkicker]

Processor: 1830Mhz which is a AMD XP 2500+
Memory:1024DDR
System Manufacturer: Custom (Soyo motherboard i believe)
System Model: Custom
Operating System: WINXP PRO
DirectX Version:9.0 or better
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 256RAM by BEST DATA

BodyShop works great on mine. game runs smooth too, havent had a problem yet.

[Sylla]

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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/30/2004, 11:03:27

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz
Memory: 768MB RAM
Page File: 230MB used, 1262MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode


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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9600 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9600 XT AGP (0x4152)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4152&SUBSYS_024018BC&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6458 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/10/2004 22:57:24, 207360 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes



I will also mention that I have an EPOX 8RDA+ motherboard.

I have never had any problems with body shop, but I do have to make sure that I close my paint program before I close body shop, or else it will take longer to shut down body shop.

[dhath1956]

I Have a AMD 2.4GHZ Processor i have no problems with body shop And sims 2 also runs fine on a AMD 1.0 GHZ little slow as sims 2 is very memory hungry i have 768 and sims 2 takes most of that to load the game

[tr4l1975]

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.030422-1633)
System Manufacturer: Lan Plus
System Model: KM266-8235
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 480MB RAM
Page File: 209MB used, 911MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0904 32bit Unicode
Card name: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR
Manufacturer: S3 Graphics Co., Ltd.
Chip type: S3 ProSavage DDR
Display Memory: 32.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (70Hz)

I have only one problem, running slow at times, but otherwise everthying works great for me.

[Mirelly]

Soon as you can afford it slap in something like an NVIDIA FX5600 with at least 128MB (pref 256MB) dsiplay memory and boy, will you see and improvement. :D

[PerfectShot]

My system specs:
AMD A64 3200+ Clawhammer | DFI LANPARTY UT nF3 250Gb | 1024 MB OCZ El Platinum,
MSI nVidia 6800, Audigy 2 ZS

I've tried using this compatibility mode thingie, but it still doesn't work.

Sims 2 plays great, and I've never had any previous body shops installed before.

The program starts in a Window and the resolution keeps bouncing back and forth. It looks like a 2x pixel enlargement... Every few seconds I see all I'm supposed to...

So I can't use the prog at all, and within the Sims, the editor doesn't seem to have all the functions.

Any suggestions?

The body shop is the main reason I want to play Sims 2.
I'd hate to go through the pain of trying to return the software (hey - I didn't find the EULA agreeable - haha).

Thanks!

[Mirelly]

That's a pretty hot piece of hardware you got there. Surprised to hear that BS isn't running. Question. You're not trying to run BS while TS2 is running are you? Cos that will fail. :p Otherwise it does seem a bit odd that TS2 runs fine but BS won't ... I guess maybe that 64 bit doodad is tripping over its own self ... :bunny:

[PerfectShot]

The Sims itself is running great. But the editor in there doesn't seem to be as great...

I checked my version on my laptop, and it worked fine (minus the lack of RAM & processing power)....

I guess I'll try to update everything on my PC and then come back and ***** if it doesn't work.

Hope that it will though.

:D

[PerfectShot]

Here is the screenshot of what I'm experiencing:

a is normal, b is what I see most of the time...
It was really hard to get a screenie of the normal look - it switches fast, and even though I thought I had it, it showed me b.

http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~bertram/sim2a.jpg
http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~bertram/sims2b.jpg

I'm about to return this stupid game to the store.

I have the deluxe DVD edition, if that makes a difference.

So confused


:confused:

[ManagerJosh]

nVidia (ForceWare) 2000/XP 6.14.10.6693 Drivers Available!

[PerfectShot]

I wouldn't have expected it, but the new drivers fixed it!
I might have had some corrupted profiles...

Thanks a lot!!!

Now I just need to figure out how to build a house from scratch... Thanks again.

So it works fine now on my Clawhammer.

[Deva]

Processor: AMD Athlon Xp 2800+
Memory: 512 Mb ram
System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
System Model: AWRDACPI
Operating System: Windows XP Professional
DirectX Version: 9.0c

Display Device Name: what is that? My graphicscard? Radeon 9200SE AGP
Chip Type: and this?

Last but not least, does body shop work for you? :)
NO IT DOESN'T, I'M GOING INSANE HERE, WHY DOES THIS FRIKKIN THINGS HAPPEN TO ME ALL THE FRIKKIN TIME GRRRR "¤#&½*^"¤%!!!!
Ehm. It's not working anyway.

[Mirelly]

Hey Deva, chill, li'l dudette ;)

Try ati's driver downloads centre https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27

I can't help you much beyond that ... but most issues of this sort are graphics drivers related and getting the latest, shiniest, newest drivers is a great way to pass some idle moments ... :rolleyes:

[Deva]

I've already updated those drivers, but thanks anyway. I had to do that, to get the game to work at all. My problem is apparently unexposed on the forum before, so I might as well tell about it, though I don't expect any help.
EVERY TIME I quit playing Sims2 Nightlife, something flaws in the connection between the graphiccard's hardware and software. I get an error message, something like "ATi RADEON couldn't send the driverssomething to the hardware" and some more. The graphiccard goes in some kind of "Safe Mode(?)" and the computer g-e-t-s s-o s-l-o-o-o-w. This messagewindow will also, after I've clicked "Ok", ask me if I want to restart my pc so that it can get back to normal again (it really says something else, I don't remember), and I have to reboot, or I'll have to sit by a pc trying to work as with a 333 mhz processor trying to start up Photoshop, Bodyshop, SC4 at the same time.
When I've rebooted the machine, everything is normal again, if I remember to take out the disc from the cd-rom. If I don't, I'll have to watch the startup of the Sims 2 Nightlife, then quit it, wait a couple of seconds for the errormessage and reboot again.
+ that Bodyshop doesn't work since I installed Nightlife. I just get's a message which says it doesn't response, and when I check the technical background to the error it's always a mysterious .txt-file in
C:\DOCUME~1\Jasmine\LOKALA~1\Temp\ that has something to do with it. The file will include long code-strings, or latin or I don't know what it is. It is about bodyshop though, as far as I can see.

[KatAnubis]

I just got an AMD (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ 2213.9) and it seems to do just fine with BodyShop (although today was the first it was up and running to try to use it.)