View Full Version : quotes/sayings/wise words
hi! i thought that in this thread we could all put stuff like sayings and wise words, quotes, etc....
I'll start it off with a quote:
People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them.
- -- George Bernard Shaw
And now a saying, well 2 sayins...
Ignorance is Bliss... (also quote from the matrix by the icky "good" guy.
if ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?
oh, i almost forgot... feel free to discuss the quotes and such.. like the quote i said about circumstances.. i believe that could be true as long as the person has the power/ability to seek/change their circumstances. however, if they dont have that possibility, then they could be right in blaming the circumstances..
Helén
10-24-2002, 08:40 AM
Hmmm. interesting that about circumstances. I'm inclined to agree, but.... Well the best one I know is this one:
"Treat others as you want to be treated yourself."
ManagerJosh
10-24-2002, 10:21 PM
I would never want to be ignorant...imagine of things happened around you and you never knew and it affected you big time.....it would be a disaster!
sugar_junkie
10-25-2002, 02:19 AM
keep on smiling and keep on keeping on ;) thatz kinda lame,dont ya think??;)
Helén
10-25-2002, 09:41 AM
No not at all Tess. :classic::classic::classic:
FaeLuna
10-25-2002, 09:52 AM
Ah hah!! I knew this thread was hiding somewhere....
OK I'll try to post HERE and NOT in the "usa possible war" thread with sayings! That thread is so far off topic I was getting it confused with this one...
I like "Live and let live" :D
Helén
10-25-2002, 10:05 AM
yes. That's a good one. :)
sugar_junkie
10-25-2002, 06:34 PM
yep,i agree wif nina too :)
one thing i have thought of about the "treat others as you want them to treat you" is what if you want to be treated as a jerK? now that wouldn't be fair/nice to others, as you would treat them as a jerk. and with people like me it would backfire...
sugar_junkie
10-26-2002, 12:56 AM
but if ur nice ta someone that person would probably be nice to yaz right? ;)
FaeLuna
10-26-2002, 10:36 AM
I think the "treat others like you'd want them to treat you" need a lot of interpretation, in general, it SHOULD mean, try to be considerate of others, and treat them how they want to be treated... not necessarily EXACTLY the same way YOU want to be treated, because we're all different!! Like if your favorite flavor of ice cream is banana cream pie, and your best friend HATES bananas but loves orange flavored ice cream, you buy them THEIR favorite flavor, NOT yours!!
exactly Fae. as in your example, if you want banana cream pie and your friend HATES it, then dont give it to them when you would like it from them.
FaeLuna
10-26-2002, 11:03 AM
I've had friends get all upset, because one of them was treating the other one EXACTLY the way THEY wanted to be treated, without considering how their friend was DIFFERENT!! I think communication is one of THE most important things with stuff like that!!
YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is part of the problem (i think) with that saying, if you dont expand it to work, then things like you just described could (and will) happen. what i think is one of the best ways of getting to be treated the way you want is to tell the people around you. Now, obviously that wouldn't work if you wanted to be treated like a jerk and the people were nicer than that. But treating them like a jerk wont necissarily work either. i know because i've seen it happen. some one treats others like jerks so he/she can be treated like a jerk and the other people just get confused from the persons actions and end up not treating the person like a jerk.
FaeLuna
10-26-2002, 11:14 AM
heh heh I would have a terrible time trying to treat anyone like a jerk anyway, even if they WERE being a jerk!! haha! It's just not ME!
Helén
10-26-2002, 01:04 PM
LOL!! This was really nice! A saying that gives so much good debate. :classic: And frankly you're right guys.
For me it means that you shall treat another with respect and after theire personal needs and wantings. (Doesn't mean they should be parasiting on you). That way you are entitled to theire respect and that they treat you after your needs and wantings. :classic:
Originally posted by FaeLuna
heh heh I would have a terrible time trying to treat anyone like a jerk anyway, even if they WERE being a jerk!! haha! It's just not ME!
same here Fae!!
i totally agree Nina..
sugar_junkie
10-26-2002, 07:28 PM
so in other wordz,u guyz r sayin that from the quote,"treat otherz as u would want ta be treated" ur tryin ta say that u should treat otherz in a nice way and u'll be treated nicely too!...i think...lol ;) :)
Helén
10-27-2002, 11:43 AM
You got it Tess, :classic:;)
sugar_junkie
10-27-2002, 05:24 PM
:) lol
wow. the conversation just suddenly stopped. anyway, i have another quote that i like.
Human nature is not a machine to be built after a model, and set to
do exactly the work prescribed for it, but a tree, which requires to
grow and develop itself on all sides, according to the tendency of
the inward forces which make it a living thing.
-- John Stuart Mill
FaeLuna
11-01-2002, 03:25 PM
That's an interesting quote. I've always thought human nature was formed by both "nature" AND "nurture" :)
sugar_junkie
11-01-2002, 08:38 PM
ooo,i gotz one too!
in the cookie of life,friendz are the chocolate chipz :)
*sayz hiz ta all the choc chipz out there!! * :)
i saw a quote somewhere, dont remember when where or who said it.. here it is anyway:
well, actually its way to long to post... but here is a link to it:
http://www.superlaugh.com/1/howmany.htm
sugar_junkie
11-02-2002, 02:05 AM
omg,that woz so sweet! :)
Helén
11-02-2002, 11:38 AM
Yes. That's a real good one Jake. :classic:
that made me actually think of how many "friends" i have, then how many of those friends i could count as the old man described.
FaeLuna
11-02-2002, 03:40 PM
Yeah, the friends thing was neat... I'm still learning in my circle of "friends" who is really like that with me, and who just hangs out with me when I'm around. :p
I love being a chocolate chip of life Sugar!!!! :bunny: http://pages.ivillage.com/faeluna//SkywiseAniWavLil.gif
sugar_junkie
11-02-2002, 08:46 PM
awww...thanx fae :) all u guyz are choc chipz in my cookie of life ;) :)
*givez everyone a real big hug and a choc chip cookie* :)
timz2rules
11-03-2002, 06:39 PM
"Men willingly belive what they wish." Julius Caeser
if i haven't said it already...
Helén
11-03-2002, 08:37 PM
Heh.. how true Tim!! :)
Education is not the taming or domestication of the soul's raw
passions -- not suppressing them or excising them, which would
deprive the soul of its energy -- but forming and informing them as
art.
-- Allen Bloom
so true
Helén
11-09-2002, 09:58 AM
*Talking is silve, silence is gold*
I have no idea who said it first. I learnt it from dad.
FaeLuna
11-09-2002, 02:14 PM
hmmm about the education quote... too bad around here it's all too often about caging the kids so society doesn't have to deal with them while they're busy... sigh. :(
Helén
11-09-2002, 02:54 PM
This is scary. I just made a replypost here, but it disappeared!! :eek:
It startled me so I forgot almost all I said... maybe it was too controversial. ;) escept:
Any way I agree Fae. And I think the society has to radiacally change their priorities. Today it's all about shorttime profit and haveing the best things. This destroys humanity and our planet. What will be left for our grandchildren?? And lok how many kids turn out, the violence in schools.. what happens when they're adults?
"Violence gives more violence."
Whoever said it first was right! Let's go for understanding and humanity and sound economics without this profithunger that destroys us. :)
FaeLuna
11-09-2002, 03:16 PM
I would guess it was a glitch that got your reply post Nina... I think you have a good point.
Education is a good thing though, if it were actually that, like the quote defantum posted.
Helén
11-09-2002, 04:45 PM
I think it has to do more with awareness. People are actually closing eyes, mouth and ears, like the 3 apes, not to be involved because it's not nice or pleasant. I think that not before enough peole really gets aware of what's going on and really confront it - we will be strong enough to get a new sort of politicians.
This world needs politicians that sees to what's best for all - and don't bother who comes with the suggetions. We need people that can lead without the need of oppression and war and people that doesn't approve of destruction because it gives them more short term proft and more pocket money.. just some thoughts I have...
sheesh.. Now I'm carrying on again... this forums are to interesting for me to be quiet.. :D
sugar_junkie
11-10-2002, 12:10 AM
yea,i agree wif nina,violence createz more violence....itz true...
yes, very true. i also agree with nina. we need more political leaders who look for a future that benifits all. education improvements would help that future. i dont mean different teaching techniques or anythin like that, i mean better funding and such. at least that is what is needed in my state, many schools have had to shut down because they couldn't pay the bill. my school is running bare minimum staff and classes. oh my here i go rambling again, i'll stop before i bore you all.
sugar_junkie
11-10-2002, 12:57 AM
lol,ur not boring us all def ;) dont worry :)
Helén
11-10-2002, 10:25 AM
A Person Who Asks A Question Is A Fool For Five Minutes, A Person Who Doesn't Is A Fool Forever ...
Ever so true nina!!!! ever so true! that goes along with
no question is too stupid to ask.
he who stays silent apears to be the wisest of men.
FaeLuna
11-11-2002, 02:34 AM
I really like that one Nina!! I always ask the stupid questions!! :p :whitekitty:
As for education, I DO think that sometimes different approaches are good... I loved the Montessouri school I got to go to for a little while in 3rd grade...
sugar_junkie
11-11-2002, 02:39 AM
lol,i guess i'm not one of the wisest peepz on earth,i talk wayyyy too much!! lol ;)
FaeLuna
11-11-2002, 02:46 AM
Hey, but you LISTEN too, right Sugar? :D
PhilipTarbuck
11-11-2002, 02:51 AM
Do unto others as they would do unto you - only do it first.
sugar_junkie
11-11-2002, 05:35 AM
lol i dunno if i even listen thses dayz! i'm like a zombie,i need sum sleep,lol ;)
PhilipTarbuck
11-11-2002, 08:17 AM
I was at a business promoting party at a local bank one evening. They were all chatting about various things, mostly about how good they were. I (more or less casually) asked if they had noticed that birds were flying higher than ever that year and that airliners had reported seeing them at these higher levels. Everything went very quiet. Apparently quite the wrong question!
Helén
11-11-2002, 10:16 AM
Lol Philip. Things like that has happened to me too - a lot! :)
Fae you went to Montessori school? How interesting. There are several schools like that around here. Now they have more than just the 3 first years as well. :classic:
Myself I went to a Waldorfschool. That was really controvercial at the time. ;)
FaeLuna
11-11-2002, 02:12 PM
oh dear Phillip!! Your "do unto" quote makes me laugh!! Unfortunately that seems to be how a LOT of people I know really DO live their lives!! And they assume the worst because THEY would do their worst if they thought they could get away with it!! Sad... sigh. :(
That's interesting about the birds... I wonder- are they trying to fly in cleaner air? Are they getting able to breathe at higher altitudes? Does this mean you won't have stormy weather, as they like to fly very LOW then? :D I would have started babbling away at your meeting!! ;)
I got to go to Montessouri school for about 3-4 months when we lived in Hawaii and I was about 9, almost 10 at the time. I wished I had gotten to go longer but we moved. I wanted to be a Montessouri schoolteacher for the higher grades when I started college, my goal was to get a bachelors in ANYTHING so I could go on for the Montessouri training! :D
PhilipTarbuck
11-11-2002, 02:18 PM
I have a good saying for computer users. Never believe or trust your computer, or anyone else's. If it has done anything wrong it will have a go at you saying that it is probably your fault. I was seriously thinking about buying a game cube but you can't play in quite the same way, can you.
Helén
11-11-2002, 02:39 PM
"It's hard to tell your mind to stop lovin sumone when your heart still does..." - unknown author
But I think that we should try love anyway and not stop love. But sometimes it sure can hurt you. Without love... hmm.. I think this comes in handy:
"Everyone who lives dies but not everyone who dies have lived" - also unknown author
FaeLuna
11-11-2002, 02:54 PM
Game cube is different from computer play, definitely!! I got to play Animal Crossing on my friend's Game Cube and I enjoyed that though. I'll keep my computer even with all the weird things it does and the weirder things that makes ME do! ;) :p
Originally posted by PhilipTarbuck
I have a good saying for computer users. Never believe or trust your computer, or anyone else's. If it has done anything wrong it will have a go at you saying that it is probably your fault. I was seriously thinking about buying a game cube but you can't play in quite the same way, can you.
Thats because, whether you fail to reallize or refuse to realize, it IS your fault!!
------------------------------------------------
"It's hard to tell your mind to stop lovin sumone when your heart still does..." - unknown author
why should we stop lovin them? I personally dont ever want to stop lovin someone..
------------------------------------------------
"Everyone who lives dies but not everyone who dies have lived" - also unknown author
so true, so true.
-----------------------------------------------
Do unto others as they would do unto you - only do it first.
thats pretty similar to "Treat others as you want to be treated yourself." its just in different words.
FaeLuna
11-11-2002, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by defantum
thats pretty similar to "Treat others as you want to be treated yourself." its just in different words. [/B]
Ummm read it very carefully... it says treat others HOW THEY TREAT YOU, now how You want to be treated, and it says to do it to Them FIRST!! :p So it would only be similar for people who expect others to treat them NICE and they treat the other person nice FIRST before they see how the other person REALLY treats them!
good point... thanks for pointing that out... *considers editing*
FaeLuna
11-11-2002, 03:30 PM
It's one of those cute sneaky TRICKY sayings ;)
sugar_junkie
11-11-2002, 06:05 PM
yep,thatz a real tricky one! ;)
PhilipTarbuck
11-12-2002, 07:21 AM
What would they do unto you? My guess is that, in general, a person would do unto me that which I do not want doing. If, on occasion, I meet a person who is different then I can treat them differently.
It is a cleverly worded bit of nonsense, meant to be whatever you take it to be.
Nina: You can never stop loving. It hurts (my god how it hurts at times) but it is worth it. The price of love is grief. I think the Queen or her representative said that recently in a service about the victims of the 11th September nastiness. It is absolutely true.
Have you ever seen an animal grieve when a friend it knew dies? And some people say that they have no soul. Of course they do - everybit as much as we do. They love; they hurt; they grieve; they can be happy and smile and, almost, laugh.
Never stop loving and never stop forgiving yourself.
Never never never stop laughing. My brother had the most wonderful belly-laugh I have ever heard.
I really must stop this - it makes me feel maudlin.
Do unto others...: For the most part, that would mean continuing on with teh status quo because most people will just leave you alone. Thats no fun, I like to walk up to random people in the middle of the city and ask to take their picture. They don't know if you have film or not, so its quite fun.
As far as the last one, this kind always reminds me of:
"Have you ever been in love?
Horrible isn't it?
It makes you vulnerable. It opens your chest and it opens your heart and it means someone can get inside you and mess you up. You build up all these defenses. You build up this armor , for years, so nothing can hurt you, then one stupid person, wanders into your stupid life... You give them a piece of you. They don't ask for it. They do something dumb one day like kiss you, or smile at you, and then your life isn't your own anymore.
Love takes you hostage. It gets inside you. It eats you out and leaves you crying in the darkness, so a simple phrase like "Maybe we should just be friends" or "how very perceptive" turns into a glass splinter working its way into your heart.
It hurts. Not just in the imagination. Not just in the mind. It's a soul-hurt, a body-hurt, a real gets-inside-you-and-rips-you-apart pain.
Nothing should be able to do that. Especially not love."
(Sorry Nina, I know you've seen it before)
Helén
11-12-2002, 04:41 PM
:laugh: Yes SeeD I have. :laugh:
But seeD How about this?:
"A Womans Thoughts"
"You can live a whole life without love and go untouched by tears. You think you've lived a happy life then.
But you have never then felt the heartbeat from another or the sweet taste of his lips. Nor have you felt the warmth that comes from seeing the one you love smile. Nor have you felt the jubilation in your heart when he whispers in your ear:
"I love you."
You have never felt the joy and love when your child is born. Never the proudness that makes your heart sing when your child accomplishes something new.
And you have never felt the grief and pain when you had to say good bye to someone that was dear to you. You can never understand that I would rather have gotten stung a thousand times then missed the chance to the happiness above."
author: me.
Mine was from a woman also, I'm just too lazy to find her name right now.
Helén
11-12-2002, 05:02 PM
Heh I knew that SeeD. :classic:
sugar_junkie
11-13-2002, 04:28 AM
omg,nina,that woz so beautiful!!!!!!! :) u should have that posted in the fan fiction/artz forum ;) :) itz real good! :)
PhilipTarbuck
11-13-2002, 11:14 AM
Imagine suffering from an illness that meant that you could never give love. Not because you didn't want to do so - you just couldn't.
PhilipTarbuck
11-13-2002, 11:16 AM
I just thought that I would put things right. I am very happy right now (apart from the Computer, that is). I have a wife and three 'children' and four grandchildren. I have four dogs, five cats, etc. etc. And, generally, I can play on the computer. I really must keep it away from everyone else. My granddaughters are the very very worst.
You don't love a girl because she's pretty; she is pretty because you love her.
PhilipTarbuck
11-13-2002, 02:11 PM
Droz: Not entirely true. I knew a person who took me back to his flat. His wife was, possibly, the ugliest woman I had ever met. When she left us he looked at me and I said nothing. He said that he knew what I was thinking, but I was quite wrong. She was a wonderful cook; warm and affectionate and would, in due course, make a wonderful mother. Furthermore no other man would show an interest in her. I didn't realise such wisdom existed; certainly not in someone so young. He was, of course, absolutely right to be proud of his wife, but it took me quite a few years fully to realise that.
well you kinda have to define pretty. pretty can mean different things to different people in different contexes. when you are talking pretty in terms of looks, then Droz's satement could be false... however if you mean in terms of their personality then Droz's statement could be true..
even if you mean in terms of looks, the statement still could be true, love can do strange things to a person's mind...
as for a quote of my own, here is one:
The gem cannot be polished without friction, nor man perfected
without trials.
-- Chinese proverb
ManagerJosh
11-13-2002, 03:21 PM
Expect the Unexpected :)
if you expect it, its no longer unexpected... thus you can never really expect the unexpected cause as soon as you expect it, its not unexpected.
Helén
11-13-2002, 03:26 PM
Awwee Thanks Tess. :) Maybe I will then ;)
And Droz that wisdom goes both ways. As well as men likes to look at women they think are pretty, women likes to look at good looking men. But love comes from within. And the one you really love is also the most beutiful for you.
Philip I'm so happy your life turned around to happiness. I have no idea what happened to you and I'm not asking about it either. And no I wont stop love the ones I love. And for the rest. Yes I've seen it, I've felt it. And it was worth it. What you said to me Philip really touched me deeply becauses it's so true. *BIG hug*
:classic::bunny:
You can never truely answer the question: "Are you humble?"
no, i dont suppose you could
Helén
11-13-2002, 04:31 PM
True Droz. :classic:
sugar_junkie
11-14-2002, 12:28 AM
yea,funny how stuff work themselvez out,lol ;)
PhilipTarbuck
11-14-2002, 01:41 AM
Does anyone find love easy? I find it very tough but well worth the effort.
i dont find it easy, i know bout the tough part
Helén
11-14-2002, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by PhilipTarbuck
Does anyone find love easy? I find it very tough but well worth the effort.
I agree Philip!! :classic:
FaeLuna
11-15-2002, 06:14 PM
hmmm... well, in a way, it's easy to love, to have warm feelings towards someone, when they're being happy and nice and loving towards you too. It's very HARD to love when you're hurt by them, or mad at them! So REAL love that endures all things is VERY hard!! It lasts through hurt feelings, and forgetting your birthday, and leaving the toilet seat up! ;) :P
*dreams of being older and experiencing that kind of love*
FaeLuna
11-15-2002, 07:44 PM
Hey, you can always start by doing your best to love your parents and brothers and sisters with that kind of forgiving love, it's good practice for being able to forgive someone you ROMANTICALLY love in the future! :D
sugar_junkie
11-16-2002, 04:29 AM
lol
Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage
unless you're scared.
-- Eddie Rickenbacker
Being defeated is often only a temporary condition. Giving up is what
makes it permanent.
-- Marilyn vos Savant 1946-NA
Helén
03-02-2003, 02:26 AM
That was really good ones Jake. Thanks for brining life in this again. :D
Learned form dad:
"Never say never."
I've found it to be true too. :classic:
sugar_junkie
03-02-2003, 03:09 AM
"its better to burn out than fade away"
Kurt Cobain
Helén
03-02-2003, 10:05 AM
"Do or do not.. There is no try"
Yoda (Star Wars)
Children need models rather than critics.
-- Joseph Joubert
Optimism is essential to achievement and it is also the foundation of
courage and true progress.
-- Nicholas Murray Butler
Helén
03-02-2003, 11:08 PM
So true Jake. :classic:
sugar_junkie
03-02-2003, 11:39 PM
"think before you act" (i dunno who said that tho :p)
lewdini
03-03-2003, 02:50 AM
Whos the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him
Obi Wan Kenobi
Star Wars Episode 4 A New Hope
Phoenix Ravenflame
03-03-2003, 02:11 PM
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
Groucho Marx
Even a fool can apear wise when silent. (thats why i apear "wise" :P)
Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months
-- simchat
alapokeygirl
03-03-2003, 08:42 PM
Children learn by watching what you do, not what you say. Set a good example.
sugar_junkie
03-05-2003, 01:50 AM
"be careful for what you wish for"
(sorry i have no idea who said that :p)
Phoenix Ravenflame
03-07-2003, 06:45 PM
"Not to hurt our humble brethren (the
animals) is our first duty to them, but to stop
there is not enough. We have a higher mission
- to be of service to them whenever they require
it. If you have men who will exclude any of
God's creatures from the shelter of compassion
and pity, you will have men who will deal
likewise with their fellow men."
Saint Francis of Assisi
PhilipTarbuck
03-09-2003, 06:16 AM
My brother said "Do unto others as they would do unto you - only do it first".
Donald Rumsfeld, U.S. Defence Secretary, said to a Pentagon Briefing: "There are known knowns. These are things that we know that we know. There are known unknowns, that is to say that there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. These are things we don't know we don't know."
Nightwish_Angel
03-11-2003, 09:36 AM
Each morning when I open my eyes I say to myself: I, not events, have the power to make me happy or unhappy today. I can choose which it shall be. Yesterday is dead, tomorrow hasn't arrived yet. I have just one day, today, and I'm going to be happy in it.
~Groucho Marx~
Helén
03-12-2003, 03:37 AM
I like that one Angel. It's a good one and I think it holds more truth then we realize. Made me think actually. :classic:
sugar_junkie
03-15-2003, 10:01 PM
lo i choose ta be depressed almost every other day in that case..
Billie
03-19-2003, 08:17 PM
In order for one to have friends, one must first learn how to be one.
We must learn to agree to disagree in order to respect the opinions of others because we are each made individually and held accountable for our own actions.
My Mother used to say this to us kids all the time as we were growing up.
Powered by vBulletin™ Version 4.0.2 Copyright © 2010 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.