Troubleshooting Two major problems and a begging for help

Discussion in 'The Sims 2' started by jstaik1043@earthlink, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. Two major problems and a begging for help

    Hello. I signed on to this forum in order to get help for my Sims2 problem.

    I had no problem until I upgraded my system (now a 3.3 gHz processor plus hyperthreading with a full gig of RAM) and had to change my OS to WinXP. Now my Sims2 will last exactly sixty seconds from start to complete system crash. All the advice in the official website relating to crashes has been tried, all to no avail; the game will last only sixty seconds, then crash the computer, forcing me to reboot.

    My second problem: I attempted to write to EA Games for advice, but they tried to make me register. When I attempted to register, their system said I was already registered. All attempts to get my password failed, resulting in their system trying to make me register again. So the EA Games system says I'm registered but refuses to admit I'm registered, thus I can get no help from them.

    Anyone who can help with either of these problems will receive my eternal gratitude and a box of chocolates.
     
  2. surprised_by_witches

    surprised_by_witches Sleep deprived

    I had the same stinking problem. There's something wrong with their registration system, I think. I had to wait until I bought an EP and register using that code, and then it worked OK.

    They think I only own Uni now, not the original. Not sure how I'd manage that ...

    Don't know anything about OS's, sorry, but thought I'd let you know you're not the only one who's had the official site problem.
     
  3. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    UH lemme get this straight ...

    You bought The Sims 2?

    You installed it and it worked pretty darn fine?

    You upgraded Windows to XP and now The Sims crashes?

    If that is the case I am not surprised.

    If so please confirm and I will talk you through a repair. If not please say what the exact situation is/was/will-be ... :rolleyes:
     
  4. That is EXACTLY what happened.

    I eagerly await your assistance ...:)
     
  5. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    OK

    Moved thread to Installation and Upgrades

    The following advice assumes a certain degree of computer competence. If you have any doubts about your ability I strongly recommend seeking skilled help as messing this up will make matters worse ... a lot worse :eek:

    First up. If you have neighborhoods full of sims and houses consider whether to start over (ie to scrap them all) something there may be corrupted and that might be causing the crash. If you're willing to give that a go then simply follow the first part of the advice in the link below, and then try restarting the game ... it will attempt to remake the missing game files. If that does not work then start the procedure over from the top and proceed to the end.

    If you wish to try to keep the saved games files then you will have to find a way to save the folders in My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\ ... preferably on an optical data disc (got a DVD writer? cos the folders are too big to all fit on to a CD ROM).

    My advice is scrap everything and start over. It is less hassle ... painful but the pain goes away ... eventually (done it myself so I know what I'm talking about :rolleyes: )

    OK Then ... take a look at http://forums.worldsims.net/showpost.php?p=96548&postcount=7 and follow the directions there to utterly remove TS2 from your system.

    Before reinstalling it is worth your while to take a few minutes to work through the basics (even the ones you already did!:(

    1) Windows Update
    2) Drivers and Directx Update
    3) Defrag
    4) Run dxdiag to confirm the staus of Directx and Video drivers (see Drivers link above) I say this because Windows is quite capable of letting you think you're using an item without actually telling you that you aren't.

    If all that fails we don't give up but you will need to publish your dxdiag report (just the main system parameters please :rolleyes:) before we can help further.
     
  6. Flameback777

    Flameback777 Josh's Servant Staff Member

    If TS2 was installed before you upgraded to XP it's registry file may have become corrupt when the XP CD upgraded it.

    Try uninstalling the game and reinstalling it like Mirelly said.
     
  7. Everything was done: slow manual uninstall, new drivers, reinstall, etc.

    No change - it still crashes at the 60-second mark. Thanks for trying.

    Here's the information ...

    1. Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs; in practice runs at 3.3 GHz)
    2. 894 MB RAM
    3. Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600)
    4. 39.2 GB free
    5. 111 GB total
    6. DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
    7. ATI Raedeon Xpress 200 Video Card
    8. ati2dvag.dll 6.14.0010.6599 (English), 1/24/2006 22:52:48
    9. Total Video Memory 128 MB
    10. Sims 2 DVD Version, no expansion packs
     
  8. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    I'm not a hardware geek and know little about the ATI side of the industry but my understanding is that the ATI Radeon Xpress 200 was engineered for the AMD.

    The fact that you're having such trouble seems to point to some serious hardware conflicts going on inside your chips.

    Josh? Kat? Any thoughts?
     
  9. I'm not sure about that. The card is built into the motherboard, and I got the board and processor as a package when I built the computer, so I think the system would have been vetted for such things. I might be wrong, though.
     
  10. Flameback777

    Flameback777 Josh's Servant Staff Member

    The ATI Radeon Xpress 200 was built to be used in AMD 64bit computers.
    What concerns me more is how a Pentium processor could fit into an AMD socket? :rolleyes:

    Do you know the motherboards model number?
     
  11. The motherboard is an Elitegroup RS-400A with a 775 socket. The computer has not given me any other problems except for this one game, which is part of the reason I don't think it's a hardware problem.
     
  12. Flameback777

    Flameback777 Josh's Servant Staff Member

    Yeah, after I did my research I found I was wrong.

    What windows crash are you getting? Blue screen or does the whole computer shut off?

    What other games are you playing?

    ATM I'm guessing the PSU (Power Supply Unit) isn't good enough once everything wants it's power, and the computer shuts off. Do you know what PSU you have? Or how much power it takes in? (This should be on the back next to the PSU's fan or on the bottom of the PSU, in the case.)
     
  13. Kungfu Joe

    Kungfu Joe New Member

    If flame is right and its your power core, that is a pretty cheap upgrade (20-40 bucks I'd say).

    Pardon my French, but the whole Sims series has been really *****y about video cards (REALLY). Even if it shouldnt be, 3:1 in my book says video card. But because everything checks out on your end, heres my advice

    First
    Try what Flame said (yeah, i know, money, but thats what it is gonna come down to for this game). Buy a power source (I'd recommend) at Best Buy. Get their "Return for any reason for a year" warranty (just in case this thing dosnt actually fix the problem). Installing a power core is pretty straight forward. Once you take the old one off (and unplug everything, KEEP TRACK), you just put the new one on the same way, and plug everything back in.

    Second
    If numero uno dosnt work, I'd recommend getting an old video card via Ebay. you could probably pick up a Radeon 8000 for under $20. Yeah, its got less juice, but it'll work (maybe).

    All in all, as far as user-friendlyness, I give the Sims 2 series like a 2 out of 10. Its bad. But depending on how desperate you are to play it, this may work
     
  14. Flameback777

    Flameback777 Josh's Servant Staff Member

    I would advise against this. Cheap PSUs are known to actually blow up hardware if the line voltages change, and very rarely give out the specified power.

    Most cables can only fit in one way anyway, but I would keep track of everything and perhaps take a photo with the digital camera to see where everything goes.
    I still doubt that it's the video card that's causing the problem.
     
  15. ManagerJosh

    ManagerJosh Benevolent Dictator Staff Member

    I'm rather curious about the 894 MB RAM. I still have yet to been able to add up the right amount of DRAMs to properlymake it 894MB.
     
  16. Flameback777

    Flameback777 Josh's Servant Staff Member

    1022MB RAM (directx does this to me too)
    - 128MB for the graphics card
    = 894MB of RAM
     
  17. ManagerJosh

    ManagerJosh Benevolent Dictator Staff Member

    Hmm..okay, then I'm definitely loosing my marbles.

    Anyhow, another thing I noticed too is the Xpress 200 chipsets are designed for AMD. I'm not sure how you got it to work for Intel.....
     
  18. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    LOL Me too, Josh.

    894 + the 128 video makes 1022 which is still 2 shy of the gigabyte that was quoted right at the top of the thread.

    Kungfu Joe is rather harsh in his comments about the game, I thought. Maxis said, right up front that game performance was going to require some serious graphics handling capability. Phrases like: the more [video] memory the better ought to make anyone who actually reads the minimum system requirements sit up, take notice and perform a double-take.
     
  19. ManagerJosh

    ManagerJosh Benevolent Dictator Staff Member

    Well from an end-user standpoint, arguable he can say his logic is sound. However I think Joe needs to take into account all the additional rendering that's going on. Technically the game's pretty optimized for lower end machines as best as it could be, since the game's specs could be far higher with all the AI functions, graphics rendering, object rendering, animations, and even standard background apps.

    Getting something to run on 1GHz is really hard nowadays.
     
  20. Flameback777

    Flameback777 Josh's Servant Staff Member

    Getting Windows to start on 1GHz is hard.

    Anyways, Intel uses the chipset also. Here

    Do I win the geekiest award? Or the award for the most free time? :p
     

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