Sims 2 "Worse than Hot Coffee for GTA"; Possible Ban?

Discussion in 'The Sims 2' started by Randomzero, Jul 22, 2005.

  1. surprised_by_witches

    surprised_by_witches Sleep deprived

    Zy, you are an amazingly wise woman. Thanks for sharing! All of those kids are lucky to have you.

    I've had similar experiences with unsupervised small children at the park and in my neighborhood. I don't know what their parents are thinking, sending them out into the world by themselves. They see me there with my daughter and glom onto me. I try to be nice, but sometimes it's just overwhelming. It's not that I don't care, it's just that I am trying to spend quality time with my daughter and can't help resenting the parents that can't be bothered to spend the time with theirs, which makes me feel like a mean person sometimes. My neighbor once said that this other neighbor who blatantly ignored her screaming kid had had a hard life. My response? "Then she shouldn't have had kids." My neighbor looked at me like I was some kind of monster, but the woman in question had three children and could barely take care of herself. How is that a good thing?

    Now that my daughter is older the "glomming" doesn't seem to happen as much, though I have found myself correcting the manners of some of the children at her latchkey program, which again probably makes me sound like some sort of witch. It's not that, I just figure if no one ever corrects these kids, how are they to know that pointing their finger in someone's face and saying "who are you?" is rude?

    I can't read the news. Every day there is a horrible story about what someone, or someone's ill-advised boyfriend, did to their own kid and it makes my heart bleed. How can people be so indifferent to their kids, when my own is so precious to me? It makes me want to shake them till their heads rattle. (The parents, not the kids.)

    You are a good person for doing your part to improve the world. Would that we all had your patience and generosity of spirit. You inspire me to be friendlier to those kids, because no one can choose their parents.
     
  2. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    Well, what did you expect, when you can't be bothered to teach your children proper room-clearing techniques? Besides, you wanna know what's more unpleasant than walking into an empty house? Walking into a house that is SUPPOSED to be empty, but isn't. That's why you need to teach kids how to set subtle clues indicating that an intruder has entered the house, and having ascertained that unauthorized personnel are present, how to isolate and terminate the threat. Strategically placing rubber bands in the door jamb, memorizing the position and disposition of undisturbed spiderwebs and monitoring them for signs of disturbance by large creatures, observing the temperature of doorknobs, and the disruption pattern of carpet fibers, can all provide valuable clues as to the location and disposition of hostile intruders. Having ascertained the presence or lack thereof of hostile forces, they should then be properly trained in how to utilize the interior defenses to neutralize these intruders. These are important things that every child should know, particularly if he's going to be coming home to what is SUPPOSED to be an empty house. Weekends should be opportunities to provide drills in how to properly secure the area.

    Well, they're succeeding, aren't they? Being stupid and irritating is a great way to get noticed, if not in a positive way. Something they should have thought about. Honestly, what is wrong with these people? Were they dropped repeatedly as babies?

    I would have suggested pointing out that the reason they have no friends is because they are losers who spend most of their time worrying about being fat. I suggest they learn witty retorts like, "I can lose weight, but you'll still be stupid.". If they stopped worrying about what a bunch of idiot kids thought of them and focussed on being SUPERIOR, they wouldn't have these problems.

    Obviously, these kids don't understand how this works: In order to not be picked on, you have to demonstrate that you have bite. This applies equally to both schools and prisons. Suggest that they find somebody who's annoying them as such and beat the snot out of them. They may be suspended for a few days, but nobody will bother them after that. Considering that you don't learn anything in school nowadays anyway, it's totally worth it. People have probably been poisoning their minds with nonsense like "violence is never the answer". That's bolognium. Violence is a tool that can easily solve problems when skillfully applied.

    Meh, bunch of whiners. When I was a kid, I was fully expected to be able to find my own food. Just go out back and kill something. Ain't nothing better than fresh meat while it's still warm.

    That's almost humorously pathetic. You should have taught him the importance of proper identification protocols. Like, as a classic example, "HALT! WHO GOES THERE?!?". Remember that anyone who fails to properly respond is hostile and must be neutralized.

    Shoulda given him my advice.

    Well, the reason for filing a schedule should be obvious. All personnel must file a schedule plan so that they are not accidentally shot by guards. Proper safety protocols are important, after all. Didn't you explain that? I mean, you'd think the prospect of being accidentally shot by the guard would be sufficient reason.

    I think the real problem is that the people who shouldn't reproduce are the ones who do. Clearly, the solution involves mass-sterilization with radiation.
     
  3. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    As always I am in awe of JMP's awesome, not to say awful cynicism. It is a great shame that you have deprived your country's IRS of the delights of seeing your income tax returns in which your wife and children would doubtless have been listed as tax deductible "personnel". :p
     
  4. surprised_by_witches

    surprised_by_witches Sleep deprived

    If JMP had kids they'd be dangerous little mercenaries with their own rifles and a license to kill.

    Let's all be thankful he hasn't chosen to breed.
     
  5. zydeco

    zydeco New Member

    Wow! Im always amazed. :D Only Pescado could turn all that into a safety and survival lesson. ;) He has a real gift for this.

    I know this might sound absurd but Ive always thought hed be a great dad. Theres something about him that reminds me of mine. My parents were older when they had me. Im an only child. My dad was kind of gruff and grumbly. He collected guns, loved to hunt and fish. Bless the mans heart, he really didnt know how to spend time with me, but he did. Hed haul me to gun shows, Friday night turkey shoots, let me pick out fishing lures and pay me a dollar if I could keep my mouth shut while fishing and patiently untangled my line. I won some dinky archery award at camp one summer and my dad was so pleased he took me to his favorite outdoor shop and bought me the best bow money could buy. At 12 he bought me a shotgun and took me hunting. To please him I did it but beyond dove or quail, I really dont like shooting animals. So he set up a target range and hed load clay pigeons into the trap all day or replace targets for hours. When we cleaned the weapons, Id chatter and he always made me feel what I had to say was interesting! Lol I still love the smell of gun oil. He even ripped my lips off at 16. (Apparently, if someone hits my car, I shouldnt jump out and apologize as though it were my fault.) He interrogated everyone I dated and scared them spitless. I was always mortified. Now, while Im sure Pescado would take this to a whole different level, its how I picture him as a dad.
     
  6. slimsim

    slimsim Often-Idle Member

    Just sent an Email to both Wisconsin Senators. Mabye I should send it off to Pres. Bush. Lol
     
  7. JohnEZ

    JohnEZ The Mac Guy

    KristalRose, if/when you get a reply, please be sure to tell us what it says. I'm rather interested :)

    Actually, I was going to contact the NJ Senators, but contacted ActionNews instead. I wonder what they'll have to say, if anything at all.:)
     
  8. Vchat20

    Vchat20 New Member

    get a video clip for us if they even bother. ought to be interesting.
     
  9. jupitershana

    jupitershana Kitty Fanatic!

    I sent messages to both Minnesota Senators, and the president! :eek:
     
  10. ManagerJosh

    ManagerJosh Benevolent Dictator Staff Member

    You are more likely to get a response from your House Representative.

    www.house.gov
     
  11. JohnEZ

    JohnEZ The Mac Guy

    If I see them do anything, I'll let you know :)
     
  12. jupitershana

    jupitershana Kitty Fanatic!

    I did send a message to my house representative as well. The only thing I've gotten back from any of them in the form of a reply is a standard auto-reply letter saying that due to the amount of emails they get daily it can take a long time to reply. I'm not expecting a response anytime soon.
     
  13. Kristalrose

    Kristalrose Wakey-Wakey!

    All these letters are great!! Now, did you e-mail them or use snail-mail? BecauseI have read snail-mail is more effective.
     
  14. JohnEZ

    JohnEZ The Mac Guy

    Well--for the news station at least--I emailed. For the Reps I think I'll snail-mail :) Maybe I'll send something to the Burlington County Times too... :)
     
  15. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    Just a word of advice to those who may have little or no experience of political campaigning.

    The science of email, voicemail etc is still pretty much in its infancy as far as the legal & political world is concerned. These mediums have have their place but as far as serious campaigning is concerned one email is probably worrth one signature on a paper petition.

    Petitions (real ones on paper with names, addresses, social security numbers have some value. 1,000 or 1 million signatures ... probably makes no difference. A petition is a petition and it has some value ... but not much more than a single snail mail letter.

    Form letters. We've all seen these. Print this off, clip it out of the newspaper/magazine (or it's an insert -- a postcard to sign and mail) Value almost zero.

    Snail mail is the only true democratic weapon that is available to all citizens of a democracy. A pen and sheet of paper and a stamp. Write to your representative and he or she *must* reply ... its not just good manners it is the foundation of the democratic process. But do not fall short in exploiting your position of POWER!!! Make your position and feelings clear. Keep it short and whatever you do make sure that your letter clearly and without any question or doubt asks the recipient give an opinion. In other words frame your complaint as a question. Questions demand answers ... no politician can ignore a question! They duck them, they answer different questions to the ones that are asked ... but ask politico a question and an answer pops out as suredly as a fortune emerges from a fairground fortune telling machine.

    The real strenght of the polital process begins in the press. The USA would still be a collection of European colonies if printing had not been invented. People have alwasy gathered together to talk to each other and at most such gatherings the principle subjects of conversation are complaints ... from the price of the snacks at a sports event to the level of taxes in a downtown bar. Nothing ever comes from these niggles, because the audience is self-selecting and self-serving. The press is the place to marshall an army of opposition to oppressive rule.

    Again though letters to newspapers must be clear, short, pithy and NOT stereotyped. Say what's on your mind, how YOU feel about it and conclude by asking some sort of meaningful question (that is to say: try to avoid asking if anyone else feels the same way ... you'll only attract responses from those who DON'T feel the same way :rolleyes: )
     
  16. Kristalrose

    Kristalrose Wakey-Wakey!

    I'm holding my breath: tomorrow the letters to the editor will come out. I'm waiting to see how silly mine sounds besides letters about the bloated costs of a new school and the need for better police patrols in drug-infested areas, and the need for new leash laws since two pit bulls attacked a woman as she worked in her garden last week.
     
  17. Mirelly

    Mirelly Active Member

    Good for you Kristal. (Post a scan here for us to see when it gets published! :D)

    I've spent part of the day trying for find some video of the GTA porn because I'm the kind of person who preferes not to have an opinion about something I haven't seen. I don't doubt that it is pornorgraphic, it is just a matter of degree.

    The Australians have now banned GTA:SA as well http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4728261.stm

    Personally I don't care a fig one way or the the other. It is either lazy, studif or wilful of Rockstar to leave the Hot Coffee source material in the game (presumably to make the ESRB grade. Speaking as a non-american I feel a little out of place in having so much to say on the subject but there is no doubt that US "cultural imperialism" is a pain in the arse for the majority of the world's population. Most of us don't really feel that a nation that gave us Linda Lovelace and endless murder and pistol-whipping* from westerns & 1930's ganster flicks on has much to teach us about sexual morality when there is such hypocrsiy shown by US cultural prudity.

    The fact is that almost everyone who has an opinion about Jack T and his cronies has absolutely no idea what he is complaining about (except that Jacko sez it's too awful to be allowed) ... think about this folks. Who is decided what you can do and what you can't do? Do they know what they're talking about? How you you know that they are right? How do you know they are speaking from experience and not just bleating like sheep to blend in with the crowd.

    Does the USA exist because a bunch of spineless ninnies sat down and did what they told? Or was that Continental Congress peopled by men and women with the guts to say: "I don't know, show me and let me make up my own mind." Who has parents who just say: "DON'T!" instead of "let's talk" (where both parties get to express an opinion and both parties listen to the other side.

    If Jack Thompson is listening, I can't find the evidence.

    * Re pistol whipping ... characters in TV shows and movies still get knocked out with blows to the head only to be seen fully recovered in the next scene. Anyone ever met anyone who got knocked out? A high proportion of such victims suffer serious after effects ranging personality changes, to epilepsy, to more debilitating brain damage that results in muscle weakness, paralysis, memory loss ... need I go on? Yet this has been routinely shwon to people of all ages for decades.
     
  18. J. M. Pescado

    J. M. Pescado Fat Obstreperous Jerk

    I have a simple rule of thumb: Anyone telling me I can't do something that was previously fine to do immediately incurs my undying wrath. Like the saying goes, "Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow, they might make it illegal."

    I thought that was generally what parents said. If they weren't going to forbid you from doing it, why would they say anything? Of course, some people have parents which pretty much try to forbid them from doing everything, and you wonder why they then go and do those things.
     
  19. Kristalrose

    Kristalrose Wakey-Wakey!

  20. surprised_by_witches

    surprised_by_witches Sleep deprived

    Which is exactly why I am not "strict for the sake of being strict." I give my kid a reason, and where possible two options, even if option B isn't one she's going to want. (You can put that away, or I'll throw it away, for example.) My mother yelled at us for virtually everything until I was afraid to do anything for myself. I don't want my kid to be afraid of the consequences of every single thing she does. On the other hand, I have some rules I need her to follow. You pick your battles.

    I want her to question rules. I am not raising a sheep. I give her my reasoning because she can then see it is a good rule and not just an arbitrary one. However, there have been times when I've had to stamp my foot and say "Because I'm the mommy and I say so!" At which point I wonder just who the child is ...
     

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